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DW The July 3, 2024

Involved in corruption in the area of procurement show us if something goes wrong, you have to fix it, rebuild and change quickly. So i believe you must be held accountable for what hes done. What he wants defense minister their records in a prosecutors office. Let them solve these cases. Welcome to the show room or well have been searching for months. So alexi resident called stays at the home of Ukraines Defense Ministry seemed numbered already back in february, when after several corruptions. Scandals came to life, president zelinski launched a major crack down against grafton. The country president call was never directly implicated. But in the ministry, under worldwide scrutiny, every accusation of mismanagement, which as has a now rising cost, has announced hes stepping down after the president called for on specified new approaches and the Ministry President call submitted his resignation to parliament. Having overseen the Armed Forces Throughout the russian invasion, the last he has proposed the head of ukraine state property fund, trust them are off to take over. Law makers are expected to approve the appointments. So this week repeats this or you know, the defense minister sacking follows that attention of a ukrainian alo, garth over the weekend on fraud and Money Laundering charges. Ears pulling moist is one of your cranes, most powerful businessman, who am not a huge fortune. Following the dissolution of the soviet union creams authorities alleged. He laundered millions of dollars worth of ukrainian currency through banks. He owned he, the nice, the charges that the on our staff choke is the head of International Relations as the Anti Corruption Action Center or ukrainian n g o. Mostly funded by the governments of the us and a member of countries who joins us tonight from key. Good to have you on the day now and tell us how big the problem is. Corruption in ukraine or indeed corruption is a huge problem and you create at least it used to be for the last years that have to need this huge progress, a grain as night and eat in recent years. Um, and the low tolerance to the corruption people have and kindly needs a full scale russian invasion of the demand to 5 corruption that is even bigger than it used to be good for my ha, how dangerous can widespread corruption become in this fight for is ukraines very survival, it um, it, it, it is perceived as a threat to national security. And because uh, on the one hand, uh, especially the card situation and the money was stolen or could be sold from the state budget a either this money. So from there were efforts to a, it means to just take the soldiers on the phone. Fine. They do not receive necessary equipment or codes. Uh, if the money to go. So somewhere else. Uh, but also its a security stretch just uh, through those at corruption relations and the russian horses, a company for a their storage, they can finish right intelligence ers, etc. This was pretty much a tempo topic during the 1st year of the warrant that the government not no or just not prioritized corruption during the early months of the invasion. Im going to say it was like to put topic, but a, it was not just on the top of release the both the government and the society especially cleans as for investigative journalist. So they were more concentrated on investigating, crushing for crimes. And a lot was happening, but since the straight should come down, but it can never get to, it is returned of the issue of corruption. It became important boss mcgee. And for the government, they just responding to a popular request from the east side of ukraine. And also the request of the allies who would like to have more comfortable teaching because they do spend lots of all their tax payers money or an employee breakdown. Yeah. Where are, is there when your organization observing corruption to be most pervasive at this point . It at this point most focus goes into the corruption and procurement inter tournament on reconstruction efforts. The humans, all me is 2 of the defense are, were, are leaving. Most of you korean budget is concentrated. The president s, the landscape wants to introduce and new law, maybe precisely looking at how corruption is perceived not only domestically, but also by the International Allies that are crucial in this war effort. And of course, the how, how damaging this can be to the goal of offending off this attack. And this law would equal corruption to threes and during martial law. Is that the right way to go in your opinion . I my opinion. Its a bit booked holistic way to address the issue because of their problem. Corruption is not in the problem of the name. Of course its so fancy way you equalize or maybe a is so way the people equalized in their had right now. Right now, the crops you a new or time you just reason, but is there a political way or politic way to say because the difference between the different a and the criminal offenses and the criminal code is not in the names or in the terms of a trouble in prison in prison in terms of their differences in substance and in the way its investigated, we believe that you brain has competent to think option bodies that the capital of investigation corruption and the they are really doing a good job right now. So there is no need to, uh or inbound a there that the names of criminal offenses or 2 of you there in the age of ours to secure to service a in this regard, its just to, uh, so the government is the back and then up to forward to size of the english to engage in of corruption and leave and leave it for the content bodies the such and such as of the Anti Corruption Action Center. Thank you so much. Thank you. As well on the battlefield. There are signs that in case counter offensive might be gaining pace. Ukrainian generals claim their troops have punched through the 1st of russias 3 defensive lines on the southern front. Now we have not been able to verify those claims. The Details Remain working, but they have been echoed by the pentagon and military observers. The photos youre about to see was supplying funding, increased military and is that to show a russian assault on, you know, and the songs on russian trenches near the russian occupied town. A, what, excuse me, russia as defensive lines are heavily mind a new cream forces have struggled to break through the elicit of carbonell is the deputy head of the International Crisis group 0 program and joins is now good to see you at a meeting today was the turkish president , a letter in fulton said the printing counter offensive had failed. There has been criticism of the slow pace of it. All. That criticism has been decisively rejected by a french minister of foreign affairs. What is your assessment of how its going . Yes, well this counter expensive has been much heights for 4 months before it even started. And i think its fair to say that progress has been slower than hooks for back here than certainly by some of its western backers. It had a slow and super rough start with a lot of western equipment, boston ukrainian lines last. Thats because the russian defensive lines were really entrenched very heavily mine several layers deep. And so it required a pivot and a change in strategy. Now were seeing the space where ukraine is advancing more confidently. Um, as i said, its peers 1st lines of russian defences. And were seeing it advance in the direction where you create in courses are trying to achieve a breakthrough in order to cut off rushes language to crimea. But its still a very slow and grinding counter offensive. Its really too early to say that its fails, but i would be hesitant to say were going to see the type of successes that we saw last year with capturing territory which set expectations really high. I want to get your view on the stocking of the minister of defense because it is the biggest jacob we have seen since the start of this full scale invasion. What do you think is behind his dismissal . To yeah, so um, as we heard there have been rumors of uh, swirling for quite a long time about his replacement. His reputation took a hit over these corruption send the scanners, which were linked to Enlistment Centers and procurement problems, and its in port saint he was never implemented in himself. In fact, hes going to take up a post as ukraines investor to the u. K. So hes and disappearing into obscurity. He has been a very prominent figure and im going to european capitals and to dc and not being for more weapons and discussing military strategy. So, you know, i think its about a change at this particular moment and might be about fighting corruption primarily. And maybe boosting more out of time when the counselor defensive is, is moving forward. And that change is very likely to bring in wisdom or on and what can you tell us about him as well . Hes a really interesting figure. Um, he was in the private sector before coming to the government, and most recently he was the head of a Government Agency that sold state assets to the private sector. And hes kind of good with turning that around. So it could be to send this message that hes a good manager and that the ministry will be in your capable hands. Hes also a skilled negotiator. He has this reputation for being one. And he was part of the negotiations with russia one month after the invasion. He was part of the talks around the black sea green deal that we mentioned with a put in allowing west ukrainian green to be expedited for certain amount of time through the black sea. And, you know, hes been part of prisoner exchanges. So these are, these are good signals for a, for somebody who is going to have such a prominent position in the ukraine, in government and in the fight settings engaged. But hes also interesting because hes crime you, hes a crime in time. Im sorry. No, no, no, go on human. Currently in turner, he obviously wants crimea back under ukrainian control. So maybe domestically and internationally. What, what signal does that send and um, we dont have much time, but maybe we can all wrap it into into one. Because you say that he played a key role in these negotiations. And is that going to, to be significant for, for what he is going to do now, are we looking at maybe, you know, the landscape shifting his written lines . Are we seeing him . I in piece talks at this point in bringing him in because of that to so i really dont think thats necessarily the message that the, that wants to be sent with this. And this particular at a time when there is still a really hard about all being fine at the front lines, i dont think that savanski is trying to send them a message that hes ready to negotiate. So certainly not at the moment and not with the restaurant that its not willing to come to the table. Yeah. So or weekends, but it is interesting that some, some people have read it the fact that he is a crime in touch her. Hes from people who were have to leave it here. Sorry. Im so sorry. That was i, i wouldnt like thinking didnt going elicited carbonell and well speak again soon. Thank you so much. Thank you. Well as if its her, i think of was a key negotiator with western allies like germany. First, berlin was reluctant to supply weapons on one hand, was because of germanys history on the other because of the under front of the state of its armed forces. Now, germany is one of the biggest contributors of arms to the war torn country, but not everything that has been promised has been delivered. It had taken more than a year, but finally berlin was ready to get out its checkbook. The lesson, we are not using our support, we have just decided to put together and you support package for military equipment with a total of 2700000000. 00 euros oil. But the delivery of that military equipment has been slow. Armored fighting vehicles are key to ukraines counter offensive. This summer, germany pledged as many as 135 leopard, one battle tanks. But only 20 have been delivered. Main vidal tank such as the leopard, one belong on the front line where they are used for close range combat and to provide fire cover for infantry. The model was 1st produced and then 19 sixties and has been retired in germany, but still has an edge on some of the soviet era tanks used on the russian side. Last month, berlin delivered 18 newer leopard 2 tanks, which have significantly better protection maneuverability and fire power. Germany has also delivered for the models. These infantry fighting vehicles are smaller than tanks and are designed to support the leopards in battle. German artillery systems were also delivered to ukraine in 2022. To date, berlin has supplied 14 tons, so hope its the 2 thousands. The self propelled Howard Services have a firing range of up to 72. 00 monitors, with specialty munition. They fire from behind the lines to strike enemy positions before and advance. The german model also out performs russian systems on range. Precision. Berlin has also supplied 5 mars to multiple rocket launch systems as part of a joint delivery with the u. S. And the u. K. Air Defense Systems play a significant role in protecting ukraine cities from continuous barrage of russian drones and crews. Marseilles, ukraine got the 1st of 4 iris t launchers from germany at the end of 2022. It is a medium range and for red homing surface to air system that can detect incoming missiles, 250 kilometers away. The iris t munition is expensive and so the german gap hard or cheat, the air Defense System is more Cost Effective when it comes to taking down drones. It has been phased out in germany, which means berlin has been able to deliver 46 cheetahs to help keep ukraine skies gun safe. Africas 1st Climate Summit has opened and county has capital nairobi. Leaders from across the continent are discussing the transition to green energy production. Africa is only responsible for a fraction of global emissions, but already today bears the front of the effects of human make climate change. Line stopping and struggling for survival in hospital use of dr to in the horn of africa has devastated the lives of these children. And the communities they come from, water is becoming increasingly suggest its coming livestock, destroying crops and driving people from the homes. In somalia, where almost half the population remains hungry, the people are for that little relief. This drought would not have happened without human driven climate change. So scientists, globally, temperatures have risen by 1. 2 degrees celsius compared with pre industrial levels. And africa is one of the fastest woman consonants as for sponsible, for less than 4 percent of Global Carbon dioxide. Emissions annually more than full time is less than europe. Africa is being disproportionately affected by climate change. Thats coming largely in the form of extreme heat, but also in heavy rain and flooding. Financial losses in some of africas poor states were found to be 4 times higher than in other countries. 3 years after extreme weather events across the globe, exports of cold on debt relief to help these nations but african states hoping to to and thats around lead just from across the continent, hoping to encourage investment Employment Solutions that ask for cause 1st Climate Summit this week like in carbon sinks, Renewable Energy of Mineral Resources essential for green transition. Kenya is already a sustainability. Lita sourcing around 90 percent of its electricity from renewables. Rather than being seen, just as victims of Global Warming lead, just want to switch the narrative to bringing desperately needed funding. And let africa the comments own salvation echo angle i as it can be a politician environmental activist who advocates for the rights of indigenous communities. Her work has been honored with the procedures. Goldman environmental price. Welcome with annual i thank you so much for joining us on the w. Climate change is a very real and wreaking havoc in many parts of africa already today. Can you tell us more about what this means for the daily lives of the communities you work with . Thank you very much for having me on the deputy tv. I think one of the biggest things that we have faced. And the last few years weve had the droughts um that really seen the familys lives that live stuck. And so that being that not just leave it losing their livelihood, but theyre losing their sense of identity and culture. So its economic call. It is culture, all it is, its just you know who you are. The person, i think the 2nd one is just the distance as the people have to go in such a full time pastor again because we are hospitalized. But again, why do we pass through the specialist . Weve always been able to have a clear model of movement. So we move from place to place. But its a very key of migratory, patton, and now wherever we move to, we find ourselves without water and without costa is forcing us to move into other countries. Like youve done the, as, as just kind of we, we, we actually migration to get into. And sometimes it creates yates, a lot of conflict by same time a lot of bands from the government, if they feel that we are, you know, exceeding all steve there. So thats one of the things, but also were seeing an increase in, in, in, in that to, in idaho diseases. But we do not understand mostly accessed, debated by the climate climate crisis. And this is again, a pop up from just the last youtube, whats a lot, lot of what time pastor. But we are seeing an increase loss due to, to new anymore diseases that we do not know. So generally if its that, then were seeing from a past res perspective, we see increased conflict amongst communities and definitely for the funding. Advert pastries were seeing, you know, had an inability to produce trumps even when, you know, given some seeds. But just to sustain it, you can plug, but really nothing comes off of the ground. Are indigenous voices, the voices of the people suffering of all of these things that you just described are the present at the summit. And i robi, this is a relative participation, but again, its one thing to get a credit taishan to get into the summit. But its another one to really, you know, have your voice at the center of it. I think one of the Biggest Challenges we have said that says thats why this is an african agenda. The participation of african institutions

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