A guardian angel. Its hard to talk about this, the shortest if it continues to dominate the black sea, outside its territory, slanting or firing at us again, launching missiles at our ports. Ukraine will do the same. There somewhere. Also coming up, we meet the desperate people of haitis capital, fling their homes to escape, heavily armed gains, but at least some residents afford or products are pointing the blame elsewhere. It wasnt the gang leaders who chased me out of my head. It was the haitian state that chased me out of my head and the haitian states that killed all the people. Youll see. Because its the state that has the circle legitimacy of violence. The states can witness the grand ravine, gang taking over the streets and never do anything about it. To our viewers on p b, as in the United States and all around the world, welcome to the program. We begin the day on the waters of the black sea where you crane says it has started sending ships along what it describes as she monetary and car doors. The 1st ship left odessa on wednesday morning carrying an unspecified cargo. The Hong Kong Flagged german owned yoseph shelter is one of many that have been stuck in ukrainian ports since the war began. Russia has said it considers all ships in the area to be potential military targets. Now in july, moscow withdrew from a deal that allowed the safe passage of ukrainian grain shipments. The resumption of ship movements raises the possibility of intervention by russian warships and comes amid increasing tensions in the black sea summer sun, sand, and see the beaches of odessa reopened. This month for the 1st time since rushes invasion, it may look identical, but this ukrainian black, c, c, c is now at the house of the battle of the military and geopolitical interest. Russia has long been the prominent naval power in the black sea with its fleet stationed in crimea. But the western shows are controlled by nato allies. Romania and bulgaria, and parts of the Eastern Shore belongs to nature popular georgia. In the south nato member techie is the gatekeeper of the black sea, controlling the only access point through the bus press straight. In the early days of the war, russia started mining ukrainian waters and blockading its ports, including odessa. The blockade disrupted, ukraines great exports, leaving millions of people affected, particularly in african nations. Jr. Often months of uncertainty techies, president rep, tie of ad one and the United Nations and broke it a d last summer for russia to allow ukraine to export it strain. But in july this year, ahead of the russia, africa summit, Vladimir Putin pulled out of the deal with most co announcing ships. The saving ukrainian ports would no longer be saving it when they got blown they were. Thatll go into the tensions continue to rise as rush. I began the Bombing Campaign targeting ukraines Port Infrastructure in odessa that forced ukraine to find alternative routes, sending its exports to smaller ports along the river, down you on its west and boulder. But that to russia took action bombing, the ports of rennie scene has failed in just a few 100 meters away in romania and nato country law. Ukraine also ramped up its attacks targeting navy vessels in russian ports and several russian ships in the black sea. And then last week came another class with rushed Us Navy Firing warning shouts at a pullout flag vessel after it failed to stop for inspection. It was bought it in a dramatic rate, but lights were allowed to continue to ukrainian. Daniel port rush as president has said he is open to returning to the great deal, but only in exchange for better conditions for russias own exports, but vital ukrainian, great, and ex both remain stuck in Storage Facilities and in trucks waiting to be picks up as the black sea stand of as fast reaching boiling point. Im pleased to welcome doctor onrush rats a Senior Research fellow at the center for order and governance in eastern europe, russia and central asia at the German Council on foreign relations. He joins us from the home, gary, and capital budapest. Dr. Rats welcome to dw, so lets start with ukraine using grain exports. Now at this point in the conflict, are there any viable alternatives to the black sea for moving . Ukraines food stuffs is not really but the deep about the allies in the details here. We need to define reach black sea boards. Are we talking about the largest main neighborhood boards located on the shore line of the black sea . What is the me go live and these are located still by the russian navy. Mena by ukraine continues to explore the green through the danube boards. And from the danube dive, lexi ended on domain and well get goals line sort ourselves. So bottom of the black sea still operates, but this export route through the venue and draft of the south. Hes a much smaller capacity than the ports of what the software because i have could be. So still the neighbor explore proved to maybe by next book who is strongly constrained due to the russian relocate. And also due to the mindset right now today, the hong kong flag, german own container ship at the use of shelter, left odessa on route to assemble. Come, we expect more shipments along this route. The use of sure the, this, the ship is you got stuck. You notice at the beginning of the full scale escalation. So for more than one and a half years by now, as we, as we speak, the use of showed diminished the gross uh ukrainian. Well, the cleaner shore line. And right now with the boss, then you die and it saves the heading sort or solves. So this shape is safely out of hopefully some other ships the me that will be out of the board of ukraine. However, these are not Green Transport ships do that showed that for example, using container ship. So the real question is, better off showing it below sheet Green Transport ships to enter the order support and save the exit from there. This is something we can be caught, cannot define yet at the moment, meaning via the degree next board can continue warranty by other than you boards. Is ukraine, essentially being strangled, economically, by russias blockade of the black sea . Indeed, yes. This book and one of the purpose of this book aid is to do economic harm to ukraine. I mean, anybodys ukraine has been one of the largest exporter of certain green product and the phone stuff. Green songs lower away and some other products. So the blog export or the content exposure, scrolling serious are deeply. Theres another sort of the coin. And this year russian agriculture is expecting the record high. Youre very good productivity or so by booking you cleaning great export groceries. Also creating new market for her own green exposure into the embassy as rush accident, the black see the green export, the food star full price for it is thought to drive on the market. Right, well, militarily, is it more of a stand off . Have you brains, naples . Thrown a tax foot rush on the back foot, sam. Yes or no. I mean the for the russian navy, its not safe to go any close to your insurance. This has to be made fairly every done by the sinking, or the multiple cruise or the flexible brush is lexie feed. Yet last spring. However, in order to build the, the, the rest of the commercial investors going keen that the old a few green, the russian navy does not need to get close to wait shore line. So these are the russian navy, still able to maintain the blockade and strand ukraines great export. And the only search the most simply face comes from your minds, neighborhood rooms. But these new neighbor, drones, unavailable yet in small numbers. So we dont really know to what extent russia hes able to for the block, then able to transport more live to that. Russia. Main thing is the capacity to, to, to blow up the, the, me, but export road. So the russia, maybe its like kind of a sort of the whole class ready to strike, able to strike. And because of the, the terrorist effect doesnt actually need to strive all the time. So good to both submitted that the russian, the, these cables spoke and search best of so it is likely to every detail of the fact medical measures. Lets talk about nato now, because uh, we can forget that there are 3 nato members at the border. The black sea, so is there a risk that nato is made party to this war by accident score . The risk is never 0. However, the risk is very, very low. Both are due to the fact that both sides, i mean, both need to and russia are interested in avoiding any kind of an escalation. So an escalation of purpose, this is something that both sides try to stay off, try to avoid. If accidents happen, incidents happen, there is a whole line established between nato and russian directly. So should any see that happen . There is a vague to handle it across the glasses in the beginning of the war, never some situations which could have gone wrong. A few months ago, right rushed to the air, force them down to us through the damage to us throwing over the black sea. So there have been cases which could have escalated, but the sides managed to de escalate. And to avoid any verse, i think of the situation. So this is something we can trust in the future as well. Now, one of those nato countries is turkey, of course, and, and they play a pivotal role here in, in, in, in this area as a controls to so access point at, for shipping to the wider world to know what are turkeys, interests here, strictest meaning dressed here is to get degree indeed, restarted turkey profits economically from the grand dina dokey. Also profit is particularly from the grand deal. Anyways, dokie is one of the expected pollution here being a need to come to one side. Still, 3rd gate is such a boston for russia through which most go is able to negotiate with the best time to give you one example, turkeys the country discuss anything menu of the appraisal of exchanges between the ukraine and russia. So, turnkey is a, is a company to reach both fighting sites can talk to and also need to, hes able to talk to russia via a turkey. So turkey is playing really key and acute over here, but russian, president , brittany mean well get you scheduled to visit turkey by the end of august. Things that they did not known yet. And one element on the agenda of his visit to turkey, theyll be the possibility of pretty starting to brandy. Turkey would be very much interested in that. However, its unlikely that brush of the middle any concessions on the conditions, etc. Already. Right now weve got less than that a minute left. So briefly, if you could, what a base deal or nato countries, romania and bulgaria are they in the same page when it comes to the conflict and drawing. And well give you a different dentist and be the most interested in the but hes talking to grand you and of course, they are both the live of allies. Nato need to is, is a stationing significant forces and forces of naval capabilities, romania, securing data space. And its a total of what kind of deadlines, right . Dr. Onrush, rats of the German Council on foreign relations. Thank you for your insights. Thank you. Or you and chief antonio guitar says a multinational force, including police and military units, should be deployed to the caribbean nation of hating to combat heavily armed gains, who overpowered haitis, police force their estimated to a fees control of some 80 percent of the capital portal products and thousands of civilians are fleeing the violence with just a few belongings they can carry these families a trying to reach safety. Fighting and Gang Violence in haitis capital is driving many out of their homes by foot on motorcycle. Their faults to seek shelter in public squares and schools like this. It wasnt the gang leaders who chased me out of my head. It was the haitian state that chased me out of my head and the haitian stage that killed all the people youll see. Because its the state that has the circle of legitimacy and violence, the states can witness the grand ravine, govern, taking over the streets and never do anything about it. Secondly, hays, he has faced the use of Economic Security and political crisis. Crime and poverty has escalated since president sherman l. Movies was assassinated and current Prime Minister arial henri has struggled to send the unrest. Human rights watch says rapes killings and kidnappings by criminal groups have risen dramatically since the stones of the yes. And its triggered the angle on the streets with thousands of protest is calling one of our teeth to provide more protection. And a we lost out policeman who were helping us find the games they played all night. Right. Scripts are appealing for more action to address the crisis in haiti. But the Un Security Council is yet to this side, whether to deploy an International Force to fight the surge and violence. Kenya is the latest country to consider taking the lead to bring law. And order for now is the people of haiti who continue to face uncertainty until help arrives. Brian con cannon is a human rights floor. Im the executive director of the institute for justice and democracy in haiti, and he joins us now from boston, massachusetts, welcome to dw, so the latest emergency in haitis capital is just real cold at a snapshot of a country facing at multiple prices. So give us a sense if you could, of what its like, living in hating today. Well i think the, the footage that you just showed gives a good sense of it is asians describe it as, as literally living in hell over 200000 people are displaced, 100 over 100000 children are facing wasting hunger this year. Theres not a single elected official in office gains control large parts of the country. And its a type of situation you see typically in a situation of civil war or massive natural disaster, but 80 hasnt had any. This is, this is the result of the steady dismantling of democracy by the current government. As one of the interviewees said in that clip, that thing un secretary general as cold for a robust use of force to restore order. Now is that actually whats needed is as armed intervention really needed as a 1st step to begin to solve the maintenance issues that, hey hate, is dealing with. The haitians will tell you and theyve been telling anybody who will listen. The 1st step is that the International Community needs to stop propping up the repressive government that there is no chance that you can have a security situation as long as you have a government that has the clips showed is complicit in this, the government has been collaborating with gangs to take over neighborhoods that are dominated by opposition parties. The one of the top gang members beat alone, you know, song is driving around in official plates, over half of Police Officers at some connections to games. You cant just and in International Police to support the same government thats brought this problem and expect it to be any different. What asians are saying is the International Community needs to stop supporting the wordpress of government and allowing a consensus government to take over. Once you have a legitimate government in place, then they can ask for help from the International Community. They can legitimately decide how the International Community can help them fight insecurity. But in order to achieve that and rebuild the countries institutions how, what is it exactly that they need, then how, how are they going to go about rebuilding the countries institutions if theyre in such a dire situation to i mean, 1st you need to get the patients keep yelling this to anybody who will listen and not many people listen, you need to stop supporting the repressive government that created the situation. That is absolutely the 1st step for anything can happen. Once that happens, there are several viable haitian solutions that have been put on the table, but that the International Community, im a got them, asian government have block. Theres been some very good consensus for and did plans that develop broad Popular Support in order to move forward. And basically, most of the plans involved some kind of Transitional Government whose job it is to establish security and run Fair Elections and most Haitian Civil Society leaders think that that is possible. But the, the haitians just need to be given a chance, which isnt going to happen as long as you have the current government bower. Why is this actually been blocks wise and not actually happened in the International Community has decided that, that, thats led by the United States, but includes the secretary General Gutierrez has decided that the car and authorities in 80 are the best vehicle for moving 84. I have been strongly disagree and i think if you look at the numbers, you know, the displaced the lack of any government, the elected officials in place. Its hard to justify continuing the st path. But the b one in the us keep doing this and youre wanting sample of how adamant they are. The 2019 the head of the u ones, just as mission and 80 issue to communicate. Calling for accountability for police massacres. She was pushed out of the country and uh, without any defense by the us or the you was and replaced with someone who was again, bid went back to being supportive of the current regime. Can you send a grass roots initiatives among haitians to help society hill . Theres hundreds of, i mean patients are, are, every day theyre reading there, theyre up there protesting. Theyre writing articles. I mean haiti has a really robust Civil Society that can, that can p lady they just need to be given the choice. But instead of giving a chance, theres top down solutions imposed by the International Community that are preventing patients solutions from working. Can have these problems be traced, at least in part 2. Its