And emotionally, very, very lof joy and its this wrong form sounds for intensive weeks of rehearsals, concerts, and conversations join us as we followed the Creative Process of the symphonic cycle the bumps, be careful with the with the Hearts Center these and so. So thats so long some slides. Its not em. Lets just do it more naturally. Its just, its weird too. Thinking too much the im share with already at that data. Co principal, 2nd violin of the mentions team clinic that were in munich. And its, its a pleasure to work with. You only have those 3 days of rehearsals and what i love about the way weve set up the orchestra this time is that normally you have the 1st and the 2nd merlins on the same side on my left as a group. And this time we have the 1st right into my left on the 2nd, so on the right there and different other would require a different assessing which, which has, has challenges, all sorts of benefits. I think for this to symphonies, its couldnt be better because theres a lot of writing where it goes like that. But it also demands a lot from the principal, 2nd island. I have grown into the position and when i started playing 2nd maryland, i really enjoyed so much that we have really we have the color, we have the pulse, we have the items are not playing with this orchestra because this is we always have the liberty to to, to take quite a strong theres new colors and everything because rarely does he have one instrument which would be for a couple of words that he has a much, much cleaner pilot bronze. The nose is mixed oil and water color and changes from one to the other. For example, which is night sounds. This is through some of the grades like really like water color. And then he gets to the real emotion of, of oil. The spot is always clarity and theres never in the ultimate, i figure that out. Or if youre not seeing a lot of people think its all about indulgence. But actually as you know, the music is written in such a clear way that you cannot lose any moments. 8 the favorite moments mind too high, low res. Im the reason why. Because if you should listen to this, a 1st learning part is the super romantic theme comes very shiny. The typical brown. This is for me brown to not show and then he just explode. Oh, i mean, we know he was always enough. Oh, isnt level. And he couldnt really say its an update as an incomplete law when unders restoration of impossible on its okay. The she has this da da da da da da da da da da and so forth. And hes already going back and then he goes to the depths of his illness as in german, this longing, i know exploding this most seemed to me. It sounds great and also the way your line with the violins pressed by the ins and the view lives just flash. Theres so many disciplines is there, that is super lenses, like you can taste every nodes and feeling that comes from extreme desperation in pain. And as i say, she does the southern and she kind of gather sins of bar codes like, okay, now thats from and this keeps keeps thinking, you know, and then this line with a clarinet and its saying into me he just shifts and, and also his ability on the piano is so clearly seen. I think thats why when you play it, its not so easy because it comes from club. There is a general general playing this is, you cant tell where its heading, whether its going to be c minor, or e flat major. So its like beethoven. Lynch, its emp, evelyn, is it minor or major . Not that, thats why when youre listening to it, you have a sense that the composer is searching for something. You can only find what theyre looking for in the final movement the semester. So i can just, im listening. So thats an for me, the character of the, of, of the 1st woman is, is this struggle, this, this, this trying to get out know that, um that the, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that the job im up im up on by that the, the, the, the, hes always trying, and festus is still installing because im at least finished. It doesnt really slow. It keeps coming to a stand still and has to find a way to flow again to be brought into motion to even get lost in the image. Is this a feeling despite the stuff . Gotta do that and i just let it be. And then the hymans really sweet to any single. So im here with jamie white, the principal, the soonest of the mentions symphonica. And its so great to work with you. Its a new side here. Likewise. I think his, his use of the bassoon is very particular. Now, often hes a, hes making you being part of the Singing Melody with, with the violence for example, like the beginning of the 2nd movement of this 1st symphony and tell us about about that. Yeah, i think its a wonderful moment is exactly what we, im what weve talked about and rehearsals as well this week. And these 2 inter movements, the 2nd and 3rd and the seconds in particular. More of a long and to last the survey at pick symphonic sound and silent worlds. And being something much more intimate was real Chamber Music like a serenade, something much more internal and on friday i own saw the service and i love at the same problems as music purchases, Chamber Music that we make across the orchestra, across these sometimes quite large distances. And yet it feels in that moment that i could be sitting in the 1st month and 6. And now the thing is, is gorgeous. Always very sensitive and always really aware of others, which is so nice. Youre looking to make timber music with, with your colleagues that and i see that and thats for me is like, im not throw in so its a joy. Thank you so much. Youre very easy for us and all the things you the, [000 00 00;00] the beams of somebody else. And in contrast to the 1st movement to you, you have melodies that are very lyrical, you understand them immediately and are carried by the emotion of the. So the violin also reminded me of beethovens mesa sullenness with the silver violin and the benedicts which bronze quotes and the 1st piano concerto, c t, it was the so perhaps theres a kind, a spiritual aspect to the future. It goes up so high here and ends with the soda violin and g sharp in the meat. So, so let me so i think its the g which floats upwards, almost to having the a good. The mirror image, the defense of lightness, is suddenly there, which was missing and the 1st to, to move the and he was always saying, my music is up so no its, its a blessing to find it really funny because it is like, yeah, sure, sure. Your home is your life is all and its everything you lived, this is so clearly that is just you wouldnt a, its about my feelings, but its exactly, its okay and its, its almost a month the, but its also are, you are, i must say. And what youre talking about is made it very clear. You see it very clearly. And then the way that you have also brought so many different voices that i would never hear. Yes. Oh, thats fine. Sorry. You know, so that what i, what i did is thats for me, of course, embarking on a brum cycle, which is something that all the major greatest conductors have done. Everybodys whose name is important, has recorded it. So to think, okay, what do i have to offer and something thats been done so many times. And my approach has been to really just sit with the music, read as much as i can, and listen to no recordings, nothing ive, i havent really listen to anybody. So im just really trying to see what thats telling me the i would love to meet you like what is your love and it would be great as if you would meet young from i dont know, i would give him the as possible, but i think people create public persona and we have been very good at creating personalities that we believe are the people. But im not sure that thats really the person. And when i hear the music, this is really something he wrote. And he said, theres not any. This is nothing anybody said about 2 minutes where she said about himself the and what i see is someone who, of course, would give you a hug back with. Laugh. Would be excited to see, you know, and, and really trying to push the borders of everything. Hes really walking on the edge and, and trying to see how much can he like pointed to the line opposite in every way. And for that you need to be very brain and got see the is so beautiful. Its so beautiful. And i think hes always trying to fit into the Central European tradition expectation. I hear that in the music all the time. This both worlds, the are these opposing forces in terms of the ideas and teams and assigned to minutes. And its amazing to see the tea between the european and the dark and obscure eastern europe. And so i was amazed how much this took me all the time. I dont really just think that its about landscape shining moments. Beautiful, free. Its full of spring. The i love the fact that this sense in a pest control panel together with problems this 1st because i think it offers more more lightness and more conviviality the country to a lot of the symphonies of the time that were to do with tragedy in faith. And struggles of logic sites is, is the happy happy piece a lets just say does it say again and just relax that question. Question question is one of my, my, my favorite symphonies. And one of the 1st ones ive ever conducted. And um, i think the difficulty of this piece lies in its simplicity. It sounds like like sometimes like childrens music because its very clean to a could be a children song or a bird called labels. Theres a very Strong Association with nature and divorce out for me. This is the tour and the birds. And then suddenly the dark sound of the requirements, the, i feel its exactly the opposite of what Central European music is. And what hes really up bringing is the word that cause the son of a butcher. He really wanted to, to make it to be respected in vienna. And by this stablish meant as a check composer, which was where he was always sitting like less or thing. And actually was brahms, so it says, this is a talent, is it that im taking seriously . And it was supposed to be played at the Vienna Philharmonic and then suddenly he didnt hear back. No, no calls back on the front of the musician said no the so what he was going to was was very serious. I see of up in the music all the time is full for the most of the and i didnt need another was right to the needed needed this a spice of difference. The sounds a bit like um like uh, music books like pulse like a dog. Mm. Hm. Then when you have it sounds in the arabic does it remind you of particular music at the new field . Thats where its coming from. Im from albania, and i started in the United States and ive never heard this since 18 before i move in. So i was quite young of a sofa and 6. And then the 1st, the rehearsal we had with an orchestra. I was amazed how much this took me home for super nice, especially the small notes that are such because gestures i think, absolute or whole Eastern European music. And ive been in the Southern Europe as well. Course you can here is more in parts of the site. I think i can see that the ive been in composer. Were very to actually the 1st one is a lot in someone between the Eastern European and the left in america with this because we come from down the you know, everything is beautiful. Its like a sunset. Its like people find a really likes thing happened as 7 of the others also dont forget 7, so theyre difficult to get here yet. The difference of the, of the 2 worlds are always there. And you know, the pot on the, on the, on the. Yeah, the, its like youre seeing in a 11 place, you know, a beautiful landscape of europe. And then in the 2nd, when you see the eyes of an Eastern European woman or something thats rocks and thats the, is always with him like it. Next the whole there was always pain. There was always dont forget, which was like a major or minor, you know, so typical east european i think that stuff to talk about that. Yeah. The hi john bob. Bob. Um find out. I think this is so strategy for me. Its like in the middle of such a beautiful. Ringback the, the places he has, like the fates, the weight of life no more displays the thank you, trump, its marble. And so you said that that, that, that, that you have some of them that sometimes it sounds like there are these opposed and look forces in terms of the, the spirit of the music. But there are also so many common ideas and feelings and sentiments this quick change of spears that fascinate to me about divorce youngs music. Yeah, so anyhow, the, the, the 8th, it has such a spree and brilliancy on the what do you think are the influences in musical for john . Ive been, i found a quote in a letter from 1889. When you want to know what i do and just know its easier than i expected you to the melodies, just come to me, you know, so to the, this is a nice to read it. The ease is also in great contrast of problems who often tormented himself with his ideas and then tossed the amount of the menu. So you often read that this 3rd movement takes its inspiration from a waltz, from chuckles of us trips to a bunch of cost games. So 5th symphony, tchaikovsky, tchaikovsky, the, cannot escape. So, but a lot of it might, it came in all of the symphonies. I think you can tell in the 3rd movement that many composers thought escape. I cant write a sketch. So like beethoven, ill have to do something else. For jack in the 3rd moment, he puts his mark. He does what nobody else can do. But in this one youre right, this very much like the is so good. Its so beautiful. And to me, the most inter thing single of georgia is when hes showing those routes right. And those rhythms the 2nd, the 2nd, the 2nd the is so original. I think he was, he was a person with humor kelly, because when you announce Something Like fun, oh, sometimes its like, here comes the king and that sort of that. And then the kink enters the its a big announcements for a very simple thing. The there is a book of the memoirs of his son, the son this explains about how his father was already a famous man and how he said, oh, lets go fishing and they would get to the fishing and then the minute they would be like the, like so we have to go, we have to go, because i have an idea, and i have to get this out. I have to go to the and he would compose and then the next phase, they would try again to go fishing. And the same thing would happen, and it just happened forever. And he says, i never was able to really say she was my father. Because the moment that the an idea came and she couldnt, he couldnt function. You have to get it out. The the, the that was part one of the symphonic cycle, which conductor alonzo ident, upon a, at the twisting palms. Target. Be sure to join us next week for part to the pretty clear through their own actions. Their ultimate goal is to wipe out an entire city, doing these through the week or the weekends in china and oppressed minority. 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