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Transcripts For DW Gesprach 20240710

The sun is rising there, now, over a desperate searchandrescue operation. We are going to go back to sanjay here, in just a moment. Crews have been working through the night. They are trying to locate survivors of this devastatingBuilding Collapse. 99 people are, still, unaccounted for this morning. We know that at least one person is dead. I think we actually got an update from the mayor that that four people may have passed away. And were expecting to get a moreformal update, from officials here, shortly. There is video from inside of a Parking Garage where rescuers have been focusing their search. It is delicate. This is dangerous work. They have Structural Engineers who are right beside them during this. You can see why. Also, this Surveillance Video shows the moment the Building Collapsed. Just horrifying. This morning, we are going to talk to a number of experts who are trying to figure out how it could have happened. Meanwhile, Family Members are holding out hope. Waiting for answers. We have a lot of hope that judy is still alive. And and still there. And still there. Shes an amazing person. Shes great grandmother, mother, wife. My mom is an absolutely amazing person. Shes a fighter. And she fights for every single one of us. And we wont stop, until we wont stop fighting, until we find her. They wont stop fighting. Thats the husband and son of judy spiegel. They are going to join us next hour. Lets get right down to sanjay gupta who is, again, on the scene with cnns rosa flores, whos been there since early yesterday. And i know the work continues there. And no doubt. And i mean, every time i hear those those messages from these families, rosa. I mean, it is it is heartbreaking. We see this sort of thing, you know, around the world. Ive seen this in haiti. But not here. I have not seen something quite like this here. What what do we know . Its 29 1 2 hours, now, since this Building Collapse. What what can we say about the sort of status of the Search And Rescue, at this point . Well, right now, they are really focusing on the voids that firefighters have found within the rubble. And that, of course, is some of the most dangerous work, sanjay. Because really, what these firefighters are doing is they are trying to shore up those voids. To make it safe enough for them to crawl in between that rubble. To listen and and look for Signs Of Life. So, thats exactly whats happening behind us. And and you mention this earlier. They face so many challenges. We heard of fires that theyve had to fight. There, of course, are hazards in this building. This was a residential building, so there is a lot of water. Theres theres fumes from gas and propane. Theres theres vehicles. And so, there are all of these complications that are making this very, very difficult and very dangerous. You know, i i am seeing this for the first time this morning and now lights coming up so i am getting a better idea of what this looks like. You see the water being sprayed there. Some of those fires may be, still, ongoing. Also, the still. All the various things that are put into the air after a collapse like this. I understand they have been using very hightech methods. They have been using lowtech methods. I mean, i guess, the idea is to just listen, is that right . For anything, any Signs Of Life . You know, they are using technology. They are also using just their ear to figure out if they can hear anything. From what firefighters tell us, they havent been able to hear voices but they have heard banging. That, of course, is hope for a lot of these families. They are also using cameras. Because cameras and, of course, technology, nowadays, is very advanced. They are able to send cameras in between crevices and holes to get some visibility, through some of these tunnels that theyre that theyre building to try to get to people. And ive got to say, because from this side of the building, you really cant see the collapse. Right. I went, last night, On The Beach Side of this. This that really gives you a sense of of of how this Building Collapsed. That you dont get from this side. On the other side, you really do see, theres stories that are just missing. This is also the side thats facing the ocean, which may be relevant to this whole conversation. We dont know, yet. Thats going to be a longerterm conversation, obviously, searchandrescue missions are going on now. Brianna told me earlier this a community where people may come back and forth. There may be longterm rez dentss. There may be, i guess, snowbirds. We dont know and that makes it challenging trying to figure out exactly who these unaccounted people are. Where are they . Were they in the building . Or not . That is part of this discussion as well, brianna. We have been Hearing Experts describe just how painstaking this process is. Search teams going rock by rock, they are going piece by piece through the rubble. They are looking for any sign of life. They did hear some banging noises from beneath the debris yesterday. And they are holding out hope they might find some victims alive. The firefighter leading the rescue effort talked to cnn last night. So in this type of collapse, even though it is a pancake collapse, as the slabs of Concrete Slide and and move toward the ground, they do create voids, you know, as the rubble crushes and slabs of Concrete Land on top of it. There are, definitely, voids. So we are hopeful that we will find patients in those in those spaces. Were using Canine Assets from miamidade fire rescue and Florida Task Force one, as well as Listening Devices that we have as part of our cache of equipment. We, also, stop and hail callout. To in the rubble pile, listening for any sounds, tapping, voices, anything we might hear. So occasionally, well stop all of our operations. And just have everybody go silent, and listen. That, in conjunction with the dogs moving about their the rubble pile, constantly, as well as the Listening Devices. We have cameras that we can bore holes into slabs of concrete and put into other smallvoid spaces in order to see, you know, around corners and in small areas, also. Were about a block away from this Building Collapse over here. You can sort of see it over my left shoulder. I am joined now by jimmy patronas, the fire marshal. You have been helping oversee Rescue Efforts here. Thank you for your work. I mean, its been 29 1 2 hours now. What we have heard is that there was one person who had died. Theres 99 who are still unaccounted for. 102 that have been accounted for. Whats the latest . So, theyre theyre being innovative. Were were even going and looking at the License Plates of the cars that are in the Parking Garage to try to do more cr cross referencing and matching to verify if people are in or out of the building. As you assemble this manifest, as you talk to the loved ones at the unification center, its tough. Thats about the hardest place ive ever dealt in my entire life was was meeting with the families there. But we have got to get the answers to understand who could, still, be in the building. What is the sort of working sort of theories now in terms i mean, do we have any idea how many people were actually in the building . Because my understanding is people go back and forth. These arent, necessarily, all permanent or fulltime residents. Right. How how do you go about sort of assessing that . So, again, continue to just to work through the information that we can get. You dont want to put wrong information out there. The the Emotional Trauma that people are going through right now is extraordinary. There is no sense putting out information that that could be anypotentially worse for them. But as these men and women of task force one. They only have one mission and, that is, to save lives. And theyve started since 1 30 in the morning, yesterday. As theyre here now, as we will see orlando and naples come in later today to supplement their efforts. So, more people, obviously, coming in. This has now been declared an emergency. Can you give me an idea the scope of the mission . Again, we can sort of see this. But how many people are are actively involved right now with the Search And Rescue . So, at about 8 00 im sorry, 7 00, last night, eastern time, about a team of 80 was just just a huge complimemen went in and started working. They got to build a plan so as that team of 80 was coming in, again, we had every department in this region respond. But the skill set that these men and women have are unique. They are they are made built to go from building to building after a hurricane, disaster, manmade or or natural. Theyre used to digging through debris to find lives. Youre going to have here, i guess, in a little bit, one of our Trauma Surgeons. The team is embedded with with, you name it, whatever it takes to save somebodys life at the scene of the of the saving. I have seen these types of situations, in other countries. Where, in the field, even in the rubble, sometimes, medical care has to be administered. Ivs being placed. Things like that, before youd even, necessarily, lift the pressure off of somebody because thats part of the medical care that has to be done, right away. This is unique, isnt it . I mean, i i i never seen anything like this, in this country. I mean, hurricanes different, versus a Building Collapse like this. Sure. And it keeps being described as a pancake collapse. What sort of unique challenges does that present . Well, again, the fear of whats taken place. The fires that have been happening to the evening. You get a lot of lithiumion batteries. You got a lot of other Combustible Materials that, eventually, they will catch to a point where they will ignite. Well now, you are adding water to the building to control a fire, while men and women are saving lives and that water adds a tremendous amount of weight. It it, then, challenges the integrity of what is Still Standing there. And and then, that delicate balance of saving lives, while risking lives. Its 29 and a half hours. Again, we know, what we have heard so far is that 99 people are unaccounted for. One person has died. Is are there any updates . Do we know any more on this . Thats the best information that i have got to provide. Again, i want to give as much hope as possible because these men and women only have one way to operate. And that is to continue fighting till the mission is soover. And thats what they are doing right now with concrete saws, with leveraging equipment. You name it. These are the best of the best that the United States has to offer. Disasters dont tell you when theyre going to come. You can kind of predict a hurricane, but you cant predict where its gonna land. You cant predict anything like this and this is what they are built to do, even at 1 30 in the morning. I know this is emotional for you. I i can read it on your face. I can only imagine what its like for you, for the workers. Are they are they hearing any Signs Of Life . I mean, weve talked about banging that was heard earlier. They got these everything from dogs to high technology. What do we know, at this moment . So so, thats another challenge so they can use infrared. But you got to think. Youve got to have youve got conflicting elements that could make infrared blurry, challenging, inconsistent. So, you know, but when you got fires now, youre competing. So, you know, as as they theyre using the technology, thats where the the dogs and, of course, listening for anything that could be a clanging. But as you are pumping water out, youre also shifting materials. That creates a ripple effect. And you are competing with all the noise of the equipment running right now. So theyre doing the best they can, with what theyve got. And and at a tremendous risk. Tremendous risk. You know, i just shave to as and it is a one of these things, where the clock is ticking. Its 29 1 2 hours. What does that mean to you . Are there certain timeframes we are sort of looking at here . Well, again, this is a liveactive rescue. It is not, any way, shape, or form, a recovery effort. We wouldnt be bringing crews in from other parts of the state if that were the case. Were were going to do everything, put every effort of our energy into saving the lives in that building and the families deserve it. The people deserve it. You know . And our First Responders are the best at it. They really are. Jimmy, thank you very much. Hope to keep talking to you. John, i mean, you you heard it there. These missions are currently under way. They are going to be happening, obviously, for as long as we know. I mean, for hours to come. Certainly, more crews coming in. I can tell you, from around the state but also around the country, as well, to assist with this. So, we will keep you posted as we get more details. Right now, what we have heard, one person has died. 99, still, unaccounted for. That is the latest information here from fire marshal patronas, john. One thing we have heard from officials there, sanjay, is there is no shortage of resources. The problem is just the scope of the disaster. The absolute devastation from these buildings, themselves, and the challenges of the weather. The challenges of of trying to get the people that they have, where they need them in the building. So we are going to look at that, much further, as the morning continues. Sanjay, thank you so much for being there. Stand by because we are going to speak to a Trauma Surgeon, who treated some of the survivors of that Building Collapse. Plus, President Biden celebrating a majorbipartisan deal on infrastructure. But will democrats in the senate get on board . Energy secretary, jennifer granholm, joins us, just ahead. I became a sofi member because i needed to consolidate my credit card debt. I needed just one simple way to pay it all off. It was an easy decision to apply with sofi loans, just based on the Interest Rate and how much i would be saving. There was only one that stood out and one that actually made sense and that was sofi personal loans. It felt so freeing. I felt like i was finally out of this neverending trap of interest and payments and debt. Is now a good time for a flareup . Enough, crohns for adults with moderate to severe crohns or ulcerative colitis. 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And these really desperate searchandrescue missions are underway. I am joined by dr. Howard liebermann. Howie, thank you for joining us. You are a Trauma Surgeon. You were operating yesterday. You got called to come be here, be in the field. To try and take care of people who might potentially be found. But also, the rescuers, themselves. Correct. So, as you said, i am a Trauma Surgeon. I am also a member of the miamidade fire rescue, urban Search And Rescue task force. So i kind of have a dual role. I initially started as a Trauma Surgeon and then, i kind of shifted from Trauma Surgeon at Jackson Memorial hospital to urban Search And Rescue with the Florida Task Force. I know you eve been working through the night and i want to ask you about, specifically, how thats going. But the thing that strikes me, howie, is these types of events. They affect the entire community, right . Absolutely. Do you know anybody . Or anybody thats been affected . So, its kind of funny you ask that. But, yeah, it is a small community. I live in miami beach. Surfsides not far away. I come here often. But what really touched open was i got a phone call from a friend of mine, i went to Medical School with. I couldnt answer the phone because i was busy. But then, i got a text message from another friend of ours. Long story, short is friend of mine i went to Medical School with. His cousin, his cousins wife who is pregnant, and their 1yearold, are missing and lived in the building. That is is heartbreaking to think about. I i hope theyre found. Yeah. I mean, well, were not going to stop until every stone is removed. So these are always tough conversations to have because the optimism. You want you want to remain h hopeful. We are 29 and a half hours into this. How do you sort of think about things . There is no absolutes, and there is no 100 . Things do happen, miracles do happen. As a

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