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In fact he saiD We made a mistake would you say we dont we should have mixeD With the blacks not separated them i said by law because of with you i wasnt photographing the man because for the 1st i was photographing the uniformly that in the state he represented as he was what interests me not just here but in every situation isnt the characters themselves. So i only photograph them once unless theyre my family and friends its fleeting level for that im interested in what they represent. Me Scheme Enterprise says he will consult. So im not. And she should she. Im sorry my mom didnt play. That. To misplace. Ok but when youre ready. Are you ok. You know restarting use later. Is a action. Reminds us of the title to let your pain. Thats what i mostly photographed pain not in fighters but in civilians because they suffer the most for use. You know me perhaps one of my best photographs of the civil war it was in northern ireland and yes he did. You know we see a woman who had been wounded by a bomb planted by the ira. Earlier i said i wasnt interested in individuals but rather what they represent so if you dont so for me. Is it this one woman who is suffering or b. S. S. With whole story is her suffering symbolic go all those suffering during the war but was it to me the universal is always the goal. When you aim for the universal you tend to forget about individuals but sometimes to those are. Comments of his of us of what did you do afterward. When you came home after a conflict a war where. Did you talk about it with your loved one of those theres a phone and i dont know who should ask them theyre not here. And. What will they say that theyre interested and there was no ask them about it. Its going to since they want to view the kinds. Of us and the boss had 4 sons isnt it the eldest team and i mean it and the twins and a rash. And awful but i think with all of that although there is more work around me our names. The 1st 2 and im a rush the 2nd 20 when he disappeared covering wars how did that go. At about 12 we made him promise to stop covering wars he did and 3 months later he went to the Gulf War anD When you asked him that. Yes. When we reached the age of reason we said enough and our grandparents our grandmother also insisted that he not cover wars because we worried about him. It also he promised or he said yes yes perhaps it basically as you said that he was even. A few months later he went to the Gulf War not toward the end of the photo in time. I didnt remember that but youre right im here to learn to live with. One of the worlds main ills is that people usually dont see going to the birth of us all if you think about it 6 months a year hes alone in the street from 5 am to 8 pm thats quite unusual. In books its a vocation this part of you. Its your calling and you cant do anything else because some are called to the priesthood he was called to be a photographer the. Last question which isnt a question if you each had to choose one word connected to a boss not necessarily a Quality Or Flaw one word. Id say thank you Merger And Id say dad. Makes if i think you dont. Know how many coffees. I know how long black for me. Running out of time my boss wanted us to shoot faster so we met every morning and filmed as much as we could too. So. Lets go through. The would make the most Movement Someone of something to not just get you Supercomputer Upbeat about everything else if he knew he diD Well so maybe one of the menu Investments Lasik observes the latest the leaderboard. Which she. Says. Mirco a lot yeah chaos theres a farsi word. Surely. Which goes from lovable Family Mayhem to bloody riots you go it means chaos is the same word. Is. As an iranian is and im supposed to be just fine with. The iranians love me it was i must not be a very good iranian because i cant seem to photograph. Even when its in front of me i try to organize it all than the good. The one hour by example it was an excellent example. To see it was the 1st anniversary of the iranian revolution it was February 11th 1983 months if the young man in fainted. It is right that there are people who are packed so tightly that this extraordinary mr rose down to ask scene. If he wants it and then he was in india that i encountered the most the most is this is a suspended moment but at the same time theres a lot of action i love photos with lots of action as book with thats your name thats happening here and there but its all connected its all you they can be connected by a peaceful gentle harmony you are by a clashing harmony you know when your party. Was given what has always impressed me about this image yes since the one i always wondereD Where you were when you took the neatly so lets leave some mystery and out explain some photos to much like the photos live their lives and keep their mystery to go theyre always there i want to. Be clear there is 0 then the chapter on mockery should look i love mockery. Your proof of the perfect example was because. President of the Central African Republic thats all tuffy crowned himself or on a golden throne was a. Soviet or could have been a pleasant surreal have been it if this Country Hadnt been among the worlds poorest cecil b. Me people and he saw himself as an emperor so he got moist and i wanted to mark that. Is why photographed him with the press just in their shirt sleeves. The quests petries. If you dont want any who dont play. And then one point with his train is ermine robe it was 45 Degrees Celsius in the shade he walked by the toilets i couldnt miss that its all the best example. Of this one of the mujahideen is mocking to jaidyn. What is he doing there. Sit there long as he was on the way into kabul before the mujahideen took the city. So serious youll see if you believe this is one of my best known photographs from complete not fully veileD Woman with a microscope. The mockery is gentler what you do with all of it is your this one for example. Of what you are with a woman and the car bailed. You should do could i have 2 favorites which honored all political kink since you this one is in vietnam you have all the selling to coconuts like full breasts and nothing else. That you. Could put in madam perhaps my favorite is the one in the book on Mexico City a dollar here i wonder why hes carrying a table on his head its surreal and ridiculous. Silly at least if that is what. Your images on religion are what is your. Ive always found that i saw some violence and some mockery. Live in the book. What is your relationship with goD Would you. Talk about that Tomorrow Spiritual into this picture to. Look if you could feel. His condition wasnt improving we film at his home now he barely ate anything anymore and i started to worry. Maybe but he wanted to keep filming he was his usual self on camera as though everything was fine. Money so here we have islam. Also in the jews there are similar. Christians buddhists hindus. And animists. All those years in contact with religion which make you a believer to korea. Why should i do find myself in relation to a Fantasy Film i mean if it is popular and is universal getting to the us. Could it be. Both wars really the other day he may be laughing today. But lets get on with it. Seems weve. Got to stop it down or so its about then its not time its you but i can hear him giggling behind me about us spiritually to for you god doesnt exist i didnt say that. As does one Man Or Woman in the world believe god exists if you exist the answer is yes and i think also god exists or exist. No said so this is in mecca. And the sit on this is in indonesia quite young when true believers pray you can tell theyve gone somewhere else. Cloned. Heres a comparison between a shiite muslim or less she and an orthodox jew and the 2 looks reef and theres a Family Resemblance and now the bounty is. Cheating with the jews but ive got another great example of a suspended moment did i say when he took offense was the Coffee Ceremony in an ethiopian jewish family who hadnt been able to emigrate youre by to make to his room but if i leave you on the side if you bomb or take a chance on the christians i love this one because. Sitting there was a mass in the courtyard of a house and bodies might be and again you could feel the spirit of the pure christianity police put. Into a palm yeah what are the samples some think this is a muslim office which is a coptic christian and i remember what she uses the same gestures in prayer. The worship with these 3 next we turn to the buddhists this anD We do a lot going around the tree for the Tree Ceremony she was in new now the hindus. Praying in the early morning. For the Father Wife is tied to her husbanD With her sari. But with a lot of tranquility. To o. C. With us here you have enjoyed our Initiation Ceremony in cars some miles in senegal will city go i spent a night during initiation ceremonies it iss in the early morning. Its whats your relationship to god you know john cordial. Early its a professional relationship but cordial. Professional in that he doesnt tell me how to photograph his flock and i dont tell him how to behave towards his believe supposable theory of mutual Respect Equality and cordial all his speech rarely called yes. Theres room for the few i dont photograph religion face. But everything that surrounds it. Has social political economic and psychological aspects all that interests me. This is melissa a photographer. And also incidentally my companion. Shes preparing a book of her work so im trying to advise. There should be a secret dialogue between the photographs perhaps this could go to the nearest missing but. Yes an idea for instance. Traveling with him makes me realize how little time we have and how important it is for us to make use of every 2nd that we are given because he does it his photos as. Complex as he is profound i thought as he is this creature. And it carries great great depth off emotions and i have never known that to be possible by looking at a photograph until i thought his work. But although he said his relationship with god is charley professional i see in him a true believer a believer in the human potential of which the limits he challenges every single 2nd of his life. Are subject to. Let me know when youre ready im ready if youre ready to start listing back or. If youve removed you know you better if you were here. You say stop waiting around. During all part of Lamberty Beauty because corporate years or what can we say about beauty. I have energy to use it as i had a publisher in the u. S. For my book on mexico who said that an old Art Professor was italian. And every time he spoke about a painting he stood in front of it and said ha ha ah but what im going to do the same thing yeah commune the how many photos are there here 60 years 16 times ill say ah ha ha since we didnt that says it all. And if. Not its counter these up a mess anD Well move on to sadness is this. Small so sadness. Listen im not going to go. Who are. Good at my football up perhaps my favorite photo about sadness is this one see. Not if you see a bride in kabul. The minute her husband is absent he had immigrated. I sure it was a marriage by proxy a little bit of the husbanD Was only there on a photo. Through by the you can see your face its not a joyful face those unicorn Call Hi nikos she in a quranic school in southern thailanD With. Me put there not perhaps the saddest photo ive taken is this one. Its this it was during the siege of sarajevo i always here was a makeshift cemetery because the serbs surrounded the city itself for lack of space the deaD Were just buried anywhere. It was every afternoon i walked past here and every afternoon there was a uniformed bosnian soldier mourning his young wife. So one for his grief was very very great because he was there every day for was he later at. A bus abbas what will be found today. Who knows. Because when we were starting the last day of filming a bus with abbas took me aside to tell me how he wanted to end the bell. Because he knew hed never see and enters a militia. I. Dont believe so private life the last chapter. Should be on yeah for iranians there are 2 very different Worlds God only and beard or any. Sort of beautiful name is the outside world all that is public and to name is anything private indoors and theres a very clear delineation between them so motion is i mean ive never been comfortable in situations theres private moments and even when i was invited. To parties perhaps subconsciously i thought that i dont like it when my private life was filmed there photographeD With a few. When i saw this is one of the few times ive allowed a camera in my own. Living if she was. Little should this work on private life began when my 1st Granddaughter was born which he. Up until then id only had brothers male cousins and good then son was also usually good if you saw the 1st woman in the pram i was cherished if i meet the Fishery Culture for the photograph to shut down and counting her sister who was born soon after ages of you people i kept on throughout their Childhood And Adolescence now today is now a mother which makes me her great grandfather opened one of those whos a felon i thought im working on a book about my granddaughters draw down on a ledge on the natalie make a selection for the film or if they are sure of us offered louche was because of the. Question of if we do need call a few ringback. Kirk. Dicom so. Its a fall off with the g. O. P. Busy hoofy oh im calling because this company goes to Shit Cleaner and up like oh syria. Oh oh oh. Oh. Oh and. All the nation. Not sit your own country. Now although it has other thicker soko i leave. Well. Lefthander my good for the hof. It put that there might be too cool. A. Prude 2nd saying on the Photography Course that shell go they still had sealed off in something new for dove to make their own mission last a real. Well are glad the found. When. You. Think the illusions which you are paid to think howard simply want any of our great products made into some plastic and together we can make the world a little bit better after 5. Or 5 going after having strategy. Well find more horrors exist greenwashing actually the customer. In germany. The ferdinands on the. Well you. Entered the Conflict Zone to sebastian despite 1st diplomatic talks the 6 Year War Yemen shows little sign of ending my guest this week from the yemeni Capital Sanaa is to shut up shut up foreign minister of the so styled toothy government his forces stand accused of committing shocking crimes including indiscriminately why would they come flicks of. 90 minutes for d. W. I. More than a 1000 years ago europe witnesses a huge construction boom. Christianity from establishing so. Both religious and secular leaders are going to display their power. To trace beginning. And create the tallest biggest and the most beautiful structures. In space how massive churches are created. Conscious to defeat drolls starts April 12th on D W. This is D W news and these are top stories u. S. President Joe Biden has announced plans to withdraw all u. S. Forces from afghanistan by September 11th ending americas longest war by now added that the withdrawal will not be tied to conditions on the ground as announcement was followed by the news that nato will also withdraw its own