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And the vote count shows a clear winner also not unusual, but President Donald Trump is refusing to accept that he is not the winner saying with no proof that the election was stolen. And he is blocking the process that allows for a seamless transfer of power. And that is unprecedented. I bring golf in berlin. This is the day not unusual should not be alarming, because it is not over far from the present crop. Its 100 percent what it is right now. Whats going to allegations of there were regularities, plot we are seeing deeply alarming. At some point here, well find out finally who is certified as a jewish state. Conservative republican, its good to intervene. But just because theres no reason for alarm also coming up in the walk downs of the pandemic going shopping means going online. It has been a boom for the online retailer, amazon. But the European Union says amazons growth comes with a price that consumers should not have to pay. And we have now come to this preliminary conclusion that amazon illegally abused some anticipation as a Marketplace Service provider in germany and france, the biggest market spaces for amazon, and in the year opinion. But to our viewers watching on p. B. S. In the United States and to all of you around the world. Welcome. We begin today with a u. S. President elect preparing so that he can hit the ground running and the sitting u. S. President standing in the way. In the weeks since the election, joe biden has wasted no time with celebrating yesterday, he appointed a coded 1000 commission to help develop a National Strategy for dealing with the pandemic. World leaders continue to congratulate biden. Today, the president elect spoke with the german chancellor and the british prime minister. Now in stark contrast, president elect biden has spoken with very few republican members of congress. They continue to be silent as president. Trump continues to claim that democrats stole the election and offer no evidence to back those claims. The faults, accusations have been so outrageous that u. S. Media have interrupted White House Press briefings in order to flag those untruths to the viewers. Now this is just part of what the white house and the Republican Party said it yesterday. This election is not over far from it. We have only begun the process of obtaining an accurate, honest vote count. We want an honest, accurate, lawful count. We want maximum sunlight, we want maximum transparency. We want every illegal vote to be counted and we want every illegal vote to be discarded. If this you were on the other foot, if it were this close the other way President Trump was in the lead and all the faith and the media be screaming. This isnt over, the race isnt over. We mean more time to count to make sure its right because its biden and very slightly the media demands the race is over and theres nothing to see here. If you republicans are talking publicly about the election. My next guest, he may be an exception. Joe watkins served as an aide to president george h. W. Bush. He is also a pastor in philadelphia, and that is where he is. Joining me from tonight, mr. Watkins, its good to have you. On the day you worked for the 1st bush president , his son he was president from 2002008, has congratulated joe biden on winning. How do you explain this this relative song, lence among republicans in congress concerning the election . Well i think the science is pretty much short term and i think that if you consider what people. Ready have to gain or loose in the short term. You might better understand their silence. I think that most members of the senate, republican members of the senate, certainly along with most members of the republican house, believe that joe biden has won the election fair and square as we say. And that hes the president elect. For the most part, theyre allowing the president to exercise is his right as a candidate to, to, to question the votes and certainly to seek any legal redress that he might want to seek. And just because hes seeking legal redress doesnt mean hes going to find that there were any irregularities, doesnt mean that the courts going to find his favor. As a matter of fact, most people expect the courts not find anything in his favor. That being sent there, giving the president that latitude that freedom for them except for the next few days to exercise his right as president is a candidate for the presidency to, to, to, to make legal challenges. But i think that for most of the members of the u. S. Senate in the u. S. House, they believe that joe biden has won the election and is the president elect of the United States. When we know that the president , at least publicly and says, he does not believe that we also know that he is starting a super pac, which will allow him to raise money for political purposes. Now, this tells us that mr. Trump is not planning to depart from politics any time soon. Do you think donald trump, do you think he will run for president in 2024 . Well, thats what theres always the possibility that he could. Clearly theres nothing that would bar him constitutionally from seeking a 2nd term if he chooses to be a candidate in the primary. And in 2024, there are a lot of other republicans as well who would like to have the chance to serve. But this president did get 70 over 70000000 votes, which is a substantial number of votes. The question would be Going Forward is going to retain that base of support. And when those people to his side, when, even as we head into 20212022, certainly well in advance of 2024. I miss my because, you know, you mentioned this more than 70000000 people voted for donald trump. And thats despite everything that he has said and done. Things that violate decency, civility, and some people would say, even democracy. How do you explain that to our global viewers when they ask, what has happened to america . Well, what i say is that this is the part of the democratic process that it allows for everybody to be heard. Even people who may not be civil gives them a chance to be heard, to have their say in the public square. And then for americans to vote either for or against, yea or nay, based on what they think. And so while for many people in the United States and even throughout the world, the lack of civility was a problem. At the end of the day, even people who arent similarly not states have a chance to be heard. And if theyre able to be elected, then they are. And they have a chance to vote to, to fashion laws in this country. If youre elected to the house of the senate, or if youre elected president , but again, its the peoples choice in the United States, no matter what happens, its the will of the American People. And certainly in this cycle, the will of the American People was to elect joe biden, the next prez of the United States. And so i suspect that in the coming days, maybe by that weekend, he may have more republicans out front publicly that is elected republican senators and congressman acknowledging preselect binds when congratulating him for that win and then hopefully the Movement Forward for transition. Do you, do you think that there will be a group of republican members of congress who will go to the president and say, mr. President , the time has come, you have to admit that you lost this election . Likely not likely not. And i say likely not because you have to consider whats at stake for republicans, certainly in the senate in the senate. Remember right now we have something akin to a tie. I think about 4848. There are still 3 races that are, that are yet to be decided. And so as long as you, you dont know, the outcome of those races are going to be, you have jockeying on the certainly on the republican side as well as on the democratic side because Mitch Mcconnell was remain the majority leader. Hes got to have a majority of republicans in the senate, so youve got 2 republican, 2 republican senators in georgia who were going to be involved in a runoff races in the coming weeks. And i think a senator in North Carolina has not yet been certified as the winner cells. Right . Hes got it, hes got to consider all these things. So what youre saying this is, this is basically about power politics. And after 4 years of trump ism in the, g. O. P. Do you think that maybe the soul of the party needs to be checked . Or that does the g. O. P. Deserve a 2nd chance or a rebirth . Well, weve got some wonderful people in the Republican Party and the hope for the party Going Forward is the same with the hope for the country that, that the people in the party will listen to the better angels of our nature as leading voices in the party. And that the people that emerge to the top of the, of the heat, or are folks who are civil and who want to work with democrats and republicans to move the country forward. And you understand all the challenges that we face and in the United States. And around the world, whether its our own economy of the Global Economy or climate. These are all things that are important to all of us. And so the hope is the Republican Party can can recoup after joe biden takes the oath of office. Republicans will have to work hard to put together a winning coalition, still have to have to draw up on the existing base of the party, but also build with, with minorities, with africanamericans, with latino voters, with women, with voters that they havent done particularly well with in the past to build what they hope will be a majority for the midterm elections in 2022. I want to speak to you the joe watkins whos the pastor and not the republican strategist here for a moment. President trumps spiritual advisor, paula white. She has made a name for herself internationally. Shes known for her prosperity. Christianity. If youre rich, its because youre living right. She has said that when she sees democrats, she sees the devil and she has the ear of the president. Does that . Does that worry you . Well the i know one thing having been around for a long time, ministrations, come and go. Advisors to president s, come and go. This far as the gospel of christ is concerned, its on changing it the same. It has nothing to do with how much money you have. It has everything to do with whether or not you surrender and follow christ in. Youre on a path that leads to eternal life. And whether and thats based on whether or not youre willing to help to feed those were hungry and give drink to those who are thirsty and to not consider what their stance is with their core rich, but to love them anyway. Because we believe that god loves all of us. So im not worried. Paula white is there for the time being. But, but i work for u. S. President in the white house. My daughter worked in the white house for another us president. So the president s come and they go into a very visors, so im not worried about the future. Im confident about the future, but we certainly do appreciate and like your optimism, mr. Watkins jaywalkers. Joining us tonight from pennsylvania. Good. Having you on the show, we appreciate your insights tonight. Thank you. And to be with you. Thanks. But when a u. S. President wins a 2nd term, it is not unusual for the president to rearrange reshuffle his cabinet. When a u. S. President loses the election, he usually leaves things as it is, which makes transferring power to a new administration easier rules and traditions like this. While they have been broken and busted, often by president drop yesterday, he fired mark esper, the secretary of defense, and he did it with a tweet. And this is what trump tweeted. He writes, i am pleased to announce that christopher c. Miller, the highly respected director of the National Counterterrorism center, unanimously confirmed by the senate will be acting secretary of defense effective immediately. He goes on to write, chris will do a great job. Mark esper has been terminated. I would like to thank him for his service and without the secretary of defense was fired. But im joined tonight by bradley bowman. Hes a senior director at the foundation for defense of democracies. He has been a National Security advisor. The u. S. Senate, he served in the u. S. Army, fred, its good to have you back here on the day. What does firing mark immediately after an election and in the middle of a disputed election outcome . What does that mean for u. S. Security and the morale of u. S. Servicemen and women . Thanks for the opportunity join you again. Its a pleasure and an honor. I think morale of our servicemen and women will be ok. I think our allies and im certain, you know, the u. S. Maintains the preeminent military capability and our interest. Those are our allies. But i must say that this firing of mark is unfortunate both in terms of the manner don and also its time for was expected to be fired. Earlier this year, he did not support trumps notion of deploying the military, the u. S. Military to quell protests and riots within the u. S. Espers stance. It is the stance that is taken by i would say all leaders at the pentagon, can we say that the pentagon and the president right now are about as is strange because they have been i wouldnt, i would say there are real issues there and youve highlighted one of them, you know, i would say the pentagon, right . Because thats kind of amorphous. And most of the people serving in the pentagon are either Service Members or our Department Event civilians and all of them have sworn no, its not to our president the constitution, but theres no doubt there were real issues between mark asked for whom i know and respect and the president and the irony here is one of my colleagues at my think tank has said is that, you know, the president , President Trump kind of mocked mark as for calling them yes for money. And yet hes a yes man. And really and, but the reality is it looks like he was fired because he was anything but i guess me and other were real area differences. Questions about that and aiming at us bases out there confederate generals were more esper appeared to be taking action inconsistent with the president s view. And then the subsequent statements by secretary asked for after the unfortunate incident in Lafayette Park on what you do, what does all of this mean for those who are under just under the secretary of defense . And they are the ones who would have to carry out an order from the president in a military conflict, for example, they would be held responsible. Can you imagine them carrying out an order from President Trump, if that order war to be illegal or unconstitutional, or maybe violate a treaty . Well, its a great question. One of the reasons why i said a moment ago, i felt like the timing was unfortunate was because, you know, were in a period of transition here to say the least in the United States. And we really do need leadership in the pentagon right now in my view, is willing to as appropriate pushback on bad ideas that may emanate from the white house, right . Or might be a repeat of one or 2 of those in the last 3 and a half 4 years. And its not a good time to have an acting secretary leading the department of defense. So that is concerning. I would also knows james anderson, the acting under secretary of defense for policy, also resigned today. So you really see this dramatic changes at the top of the pentagon. So i am concerned, but i do take some comfort in the following. When i was serving in the army myself, i am was an assistant professor at west point to try to class american politics in the 1st class. I would always remind the cadets future Army Officers that their oath was to the constitution, not to any individual, not to any president. And i think, i think our Service Members will remember that as they always have done, felt filled faithful to that constitution, our country is going to be ok, but its going to be, its going to be a rough couple months of fortunately, i think we got through you know, you speak to the servicemen, the people who make up the military, you know, the Defense Community in washington. I mean, the president firing his secretary of defense with a tweet or even in that tweet in a trunk succeeded in belittling mr. Esper, just by the way he wrote it. I mean, is this a commander in chief that people in the military . Can they respect donald trump . Well, you know, its a good question. I would want to pretend to speak, and youre not asked me to do that to speak for all of them, but you know, there are the ports by the atlantic and others about what the president reportedly said. Obviously that doesnt sit well with a lot of people. You want your commander in chief to have the best interests at heart of Service Members and their families here. You know, but you know, i, like i said i know remark asked for from before he served in the pentagon, lets remember him. He served 20 years in the u. S. Army. He served impressively in my view as secretary armitage. And hes also served hon