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A break from nearly 4 decades of Robert Mugabes brutal authoritarian rule and economic mismanagement but hopes for a quick recovery have been dashed the country out faces the worst economic and humanitarian crisis in a decade and critics question the political will to stamp out rampant corruption and human rights abuses my guest this week is involve ways minister of Foreign Affairs and International Trade see both more you as a former army chief he was also the face of the military coup that propelled him nongod watts of power who was involved way ever be able to see genuine political and economic reform. Foreign minister as the both see you so more oil welcome to conflict zone thank you. You were the face of the military overthrow of Robert Mugabe back in 2017 as a commander you got on television in your uniform to assure the public of a stable transition back then you were the heroes of the hour now you have an economy close to collapse with fuel food electricity shortages where is the hope in zimbabwe right now world thank you very much cetera yes the change in 27. And the advent of the current government which is a separate dispensation was as a result of a lot of issues but among those was the issue of the economy and the discipline the public took over any quote of me which had been in distress for many is for different reasons. Some of the diseases could be sanctions and then some of the reasons could be that management but me say that there was hope and theres still hope because we have what to take painful decisions to the 5 economy from where it was these political decisions are the ones which are as its making people lose hope but in reality. Good team teams right and i want to talk about you mentioned sanctions you mentioned management of the certainly issues that were going to address but right now the i. M. F. Is saying that youre in an economic and humanitarian crisis the worst economic crisis in more than a decade against that backdrop id like to talk about the priorities of your government right now because you have recently made headlines for splurging millions to purchase top of the range vehicles for nearly 50 ambassadors across the globe while the state is failing to pay Civil Servants a living wage how can you justify such a spending spree when millions are facing hunger. Knows the whole issue. Is is is is best on the fundamentals this economy has got very strong fundamentals in fact stronger sentiment those than what was that before and all of the issues which we are before me at the moment in his life as the economys concerned is the. Currency it has been the cottons which has caused inflation but as you are well with the auction system but mr foreign minister just to bring it back to see issue because ultimately you purchased these vehicles and just to give our viewers a bit of context they were between 40. 00 and 50000. 00 per view a call when were talking about the average Civil Servant this is the middle class in your economy they are making the equivalent of 1. 80 a day and youre purchasing 40. 00 to 50000. 00 vehicles are you not out of tune with the priorities and the needs of your population with that money have been better spent elsewhere not our most sure said i would say it was talking about. The variables which the one thing i announced for the new orleans very critical and we have had to ensure that our own deployments. Are mobile. And that that was quite a serious issue when we took over because the conditions of our diplomacy externally was really the 2 of. Collapse because they were moving with as they were moving with. Something which is not. Appropriate for the deployment weve assigned for admission and therefore by very close for the deployments was one of those measures which would turkey to address the situation of our diplomats but you had made it look good boy it doesnt look good in economy where were 63 percent of the population live below the poverty line yeah but whatever the cost of those there calls was not to necessarily the issue which has caused the economy to be. The quantum it has been like this we are changing we are reforming again we are undertaking specific key decisions which are oriented to the economy and among them is the double as they should of the extent of it but were also doing a lot of the economy conforms which ensures that even the Investment Development community is free to come in within the. Open for business lets talk a little bit more about that mantra and those reforms that you have been making in order to get the economy back on track because as you mentioned you promised that the economy would be open for business id like to begin on the economic front with your currency reforms because a really big source of tension right now has been the reintroduction of your local currency. Last year after a decade of official use of the u. S. Dollar very quickly that local currency rapidly lost value of 10 prices rocketing raising fears of renewed hyper inflation but you have been quoted as saying the following that the return of the zimbabwean dollar is basically stabilizing the economy from what it was. Is that really a message thats appropriate to send to the people of your country when the price of almost everything has ballooned a loaf of bread can essentially gobble up a few weeks pension up sell the scenario which is happening on the ground is that this economy had norm wanted out of policy. Way or fixing it it only had to fiske of the fiscal side and therefore the 2 what one systems of fixing the economy both the fiscal and the Monetary Policy had to be. Adjusted and thats why we head to introduce our own currency and our own currency is critical for our own people in terms of. Planning and in terms of expenditure years we are facing challenges because of the changes we had to get base and the they did challenges have been that our currency was not stable and it therefore we had to have been turkey majors such measures which are to stubble as all but i mean this year with introduce the. Oh excuse me foreign minister i just want to follow up with you and ask you because to address some of this criticism though in the way that you rolled out this currency because we have a condom a saying that you rushed to reintroduce it without the backing of a foreign currency the i. M. F. Cites missteps in Foreign Exchange and monetary reforms that have failed to restore confidence Chatham House also saying that it has had limited results do you have any regrets not at all in fact. It is appropriate and it was an appropriate decision that we introduce to our currency so that. You can side with Foreign Exchange operations and that that has been the desire of this government so we not only trying to eliminate remember we have been in this period for some time before and it. Did up when there was shortages when there were issues a lot of issues which would put outside the control independent of the. Authorities because of that it was important that we introduce our currency in our currency which is ok supposed to operate. With the u. S. Dollar just briefly foreign minister id like to ask you because you mentioned in the beginning of our conversation that one of one of the ills that is affecting your economy is sanctions weve actually had your president saying that their impact on our daily lives is a measurable that the consequences are dire but are they really because. Or is there just your government just continuing to perpetuate a false narrative here as a convenient scapegoat the United States for example says they only have. 141 individuals or come for companies singled out in your country right now in a country of 16000000 not to do all. Do all government of sanctions to this country has caused the serious and unintended consequences of all is called a weapon of mass destruction because this is a dead which exists now is. A study instrument or act on zimbabwe specifically that it shall not access in external support from either the i. M. F. World bank or other International Financial institutions and the because of that its means that the risk of. Perceived risk of this country whenever these that hinging aspect of a sanction means that it is higher it to deter investors would lend to come into this country despite the fed but as a mole was open for business which has been propagated by. Muslim nongovernment and therefore we believe that these sanctions are now either live and it is fun as the situation isnt by with its content but there are causing untold sufferings not probably to the if a little but particularly to kowtow must publish of the people and thats what is written by the European Union in order the United States however i would just like to ask you because youre continuing that with this narrative and by blaming the west for your countrys problems arent you actually shooting yourself in the foot i mean you mentioned that you need foreign capital because the truth is you need very engaged in order to improve your economy which is saddled with billions of dollars in debt at the advent of the 7 the public. President obama clearly articulated these Foreign Policy objectives and that was a reengagement engagement basically he was saying we must be a friend to everyone and that we must be and they need to know one and that zimbabwe was open for business and the whole objective of that process was to ensure that we are members of the family of nations who can and who can. Allow. Companies particularly from the west to come in and invest in zimbabwe and the west is encouraging and that is developed up to drive to ensure that company is from the u. S. From the European Union from all of these countries from germany should come into the bubble so that they can be able 6 to invest and opportunities that have been say that zimbabwe is probably presenting. Debased vest with but you need to promote investment which emerges for the movers in the International Community however now that is. That investment for Many International partners one of the precursors for that is the fact that many want you to tackle corruption in your country on july 11th president and he once again he declared war on corruption as he did in 2017 post his takeover speech and in his inaugural speech after the 28000 election so i would like to ask you why should zimbabweans and the International Community believe that these are more than just shallow phrases i mean theyre phrases that have been around for a while these are not just phrases the president do when he. Particularly made his detriment on the undercoating day was clear and in terms of direction in which were talking of corruption and a quarter of is something which we are at to mourn and not just something which is the original and you are aware that already. To cut the ministers have been arraigned and go in now not. Livable how is it not their radical mr foreign minister when youve had when youve had more than 2 years in office and several of us have been made that there have been no convictions to date no convictions to date and even the president acknowledges that there is a socalled catch and release system in place yes but remember we have whats a positional powers but do you know the exact deval selves and the judiciary and therefore when people have been arrested and will be charged and everything it is then that is the responsibility of the judiciary to handle the cases particularly the prosecution side so that if they do this with the cases. They are being given the court dates and they are appearing in court of moment and do we believe that we. Should and the not theorising of the whole process is when many people believe in fact it is the 1st time that she has been handled head on in this country than ever before ok so lets look at a very high profile case a concrete case on corruption and that is the case of coulda tog theory he is the boss of such a holdings it is said to have purchased buses from a Chinese Company and then resold them to the government at twice the price its costing your citizens a lot of money he apparently made a 54000000. 00 profit here tell us is this an example of the type of business practice that needs to be investigated because theres talk that he got this contract without a proper process of procurement. I think that is a misinformed position is far as were concerned and if theres been any. Such kind of campaign it should have been reported to to this mobile and the Corruption Commission but that is what has been reported by the end the rubbish information your former youth leaders in fact reported it to your anti Corruption Commission the i. M. F. Reportedly also privately warned zimbabwe that the state payouts of sequential were quote undermining trust in the economy you are pushing it and you are talking hiving fears of the highest levels of government why not just investigate. Earth. Because hes politically connected not at all in fact if you are talking about the issue of buses those buses. A way of bought from. I didnt want is this a prior of and there was a deal of the bus company here in zimbabwe not even. Out of china direct but through the agent who had supplied buses be fall into this country and with their will is head is to contract and these buses were bought when ordered and ordered 3 and the delivered that our transport system is efficient more so under the cover its 90. 6 no there was like there wont be an investigation there so that everythings above them. So mr foreign minister then let me. Just let me ask you about another case where everything does not appear to be above board we also have to mention this high profile case which is currently ongoing that your Health Minister who would fire this month for Inappropriate Conduct after he was accused of illegally awarding a multimillion dollar contract for covert 1000. 00 medical supplies and just to give a Reference Point these masks were apparently costing the government 28. 00 per mask theres been public uproar over this hes facing 15 years in prison if convicted will your citizens see real consequences well that is exactly the testimony all for how the and the corruption brive in this country is because he is been arrested and he has been charged and therefore it means. And what at least appears no no no no its not being caught and released remember just in this country hes going to appear in court and evidence is going to be presented and then it to be up to the judicial. That to convict him or not but thats just not it is not the disposability of of of this sort of. Ok mr foreign minister id like to turn to another issue now and that is the issue of human rights particularly the issue of freedom of assembly has been criticized in your country the president has said that everyone in zimbabwe has the right to express themselves freely to criticize to protest but i just like to bring in one example because these are the protests back in early 2019 Security Forces responded reportedly with lethal force killing at least 17 people raping at least 17 women shooting and injuring 81 people or arresting over 1000 suspected protesters during door to door raids that doesnt sound like an ideal condition for people to express themselves freely or does it to you. Well let me assure you. And all the viewers that this government and the constitution of this country clearly article is old the rights rights all through the. Freedom of expression and freedom of religion and so on and besides that theres been a lot of emphasis in terms of. Embedding these rights among the people but there is no freedom in the constitution or in demonstrations or protest there is no freedom. Bending peoples cars and of the like that but it must be this which respects other peoples rights as well lets talk about other peoples rights interfering and also just to acknowledge the violence in this case was against the protesters they were the ones who experienced the fatalities but lets talk about the rights of others and turn to another case. A crackdown on dissent and this happened in may when 3 female opposition activists were on their way to participate in a peaceful protest organized by the opposition they were reportedly stopped at a Police Checkpoint in harare subsequently abducted by state agents tortured sexually assaulted a very high profile case in your country is this what opposition leaders can expect in your country theyve subsequently been arrested themselves they havent even received an investigation into what happened to them. It must you must be very careful when you. Are sessions because in the 1st place we were in the we are in because it peeled and because of the cost 8. 00 you cannot have done most of or a symbol for about 50 people in town now if you breach but the law in that regard and you then causes danger to the rest of the population in terms of the instructions it is you are fitting other peoples rights to life which is not in up it which is not appropriate and the other 2nd issue is that you you believe at the moment that. Is that those women but this is a must which is under investigation and this if im going to start this i have truly been produced as actually been produced by the minister of home of his which is clearly that this could be leading to one of those issues which is take money to while. The nation are already done event ok but you didnt i didnt notice holland for their release its also not my assessment its my assess the assessment of the u. N. But id just like to ask you generally speaking because international n. G. O. S they describe a lack of political will when it comes to instituting reforms in your country i just like to quote Human Rights Watch it says the following zimbabwes failure to decisively deal with cases of abductions disappearances and torture severely undermines the standing of the country within the International Community the country needs to end impunity if symbolic way is to be respected failure to do so undermines the countrys reengagement efforts with the Robert Mugabes<\/a> brutal authoritarian rule and economic mismanagement but hopes for a quick recovery have been dashed the country out faces the worst economic and humanitarian crisis in a decade and critics question the political will to stamp out rampant corruption and human rights abuses my guest this week is involve ways minister of Foreign Affairs<\/a> and International Trade<\/a> see both more you as a former army chief he was also the face of the military coup that propelled him nongod watts of power who was involved way ever be able to see genuine political and economic reform. Foreign minister as the both see you so more oil welcome to conflict zone thank you. You were the face of the military overthrow of Robert Mugabe<\/a> back in 2017 as a commander you got on television in your uniform to assure the public of a stable transition back then you were the heroes of the hour now you have an economy close to collapse with fuel food electricity shortages where is the hope in zimbabwe right now world thank you very much cetera yes the change in 27. And the advent of the current government which is a separate dispensation was as a result of a lot of issues but among those was the issue of the economy and the discipline the public took over any quote of me which had been in distress for many is for different reasons. Some of the diseases could be sanctions and then some of the reasons could be that management but me say that there was hope and theres still hope because we have what to take painful decisions to the 5 economy from where it was these political decisions are the ones which are as its making people lose hope but in reality. Good team teams right and i want to talk about you mentioned sanctions you mentioned management of the certainly issues that were going to address but right now the i. M. F. Is saying that youre in an economic and humanitarian crisis the worst economic crisis in more than a decade against that backdrop id like to talk about the priorities of your government right now because you have recently made headlines for splurging millions to purchase top of the range vehicles for nearly 50 ambassadors across the globe while the state is failing to pay Civil Servants<\/a> a living wage how can you justify such a spending spree when millions are facing hunger. Knows the whole issue. Is is is is best on the fundamentals this economy has got very strong fundamentals in fact stronger sentiment those than what was that before and all of the issues which we are before me at the moment in his life as the economys concerned is the. Currency it has been the cottons which has caused inflation but as you are well with the auction system but mr foreign minister just to bring it back to see issue because ultimately you purchased these vehicles and just to give our viewers a bit of context they were between 40. 00 and 50000. 00 per view a call when were talking about the average Civil Servant<\/a> this is the middle class in your economy they are making the equivalent of 1. 80 a day and youre purchasing 40. 00 to 50000. 00 vehicles are you not out of tune with the priorities and the needs of your population with that money have been better spent elsewhere not our most sure said i would say it was talking about. The variables which the one thing i announced for the new orleans very critical and we have had to ensure that our own deployments. Are mobile. And that that was quite a serious issue when we took over because the conditions of our diplomacy externally was really the 2 of. Collapse because they were moving with as they were moving with. Something which is not. Appropriate for the deployment weve assigned for admission and therefore by very close for the deployments was one of those measures which would turkey to address the situation of our diplomats but you had made it look good boy it doesnt look good in economy where were 63 percent of the population live below the poverty line yeah but whatever the cost of those there calls was not to necessarily the issue which has caused the economy to be. The quantum it has been like this we are changing we are reforming again we are undertaking specific key decisions which are oriented to the economy and among them is the double as they should of the extent of it but were also doing a lot of the economy conforms which ensures that even the Investment Development<\/a> community is free to come in within the. Open for business lets talk a little bit more about that mantra and those reforms that you have been making in order to get the economy back on track because as you mentioned you promised that the economy would be open for business id like to begin on the economic front with your currency reforms because a really big source of tension right now has been the reintroduction of your local currency. Last year after a decade of official use of the u. S. Dollar very quickly that local currency rapidly lost value of 10 prices rocketing raising fears of renewed hyper inflation but you have been quoted as saying the following that the return of the zimbabwean dollar is basically stabilizing the economy from what it was. Is that really a message thats appropriate to send to the people of your country when the price of almost everything has ballooned a loaf of bread can essentially gobble up a few weeks pension up sell the scenario which is happening on the ground is that this economy had norm wanted out of policy. Way or fixing it it only had to fiske of the fiscal side and therefore the 2 what one systems of fixing the economy both the fiscal and the Monetary Policy<\/a> had to be. Adjusted and thats why we head to introduce our own currency and our own currency is critical for our own people in terms of. Planning and in terms of expenditure years we are facing challenges because of the changes we had to get base and the they did challenges have been that our currency was not stable and it therefore we had to have been turkey majors such measures which are to stubble as all but i mean this year with introduce the. Oh excuse me foreign minister i just want to follow up with you and ask you because to address some of this criticism though in the way that you rolled out this currency because we have a condom a saying that you rushed to reintroduce it without the backing of a foreign currency the i. M. F. Cites missteps in Foreign Exchange<\/a> and monetary reforms that have failed to restore confidence Chatham House<\/a> also saying that it has had limited results do you have any regrets not at all in fact. It is appropriate and it was an appropriate decision that we introduce to our currency so that. You can side with Foreign Exchange<\/a> operations and that that has been the desire of this government so we not only trying to eliminate remember we have been in this period for some time before and it. Did up when there was shortages when there were issues a lot of issues which would put outside the control independent of the. Authorities because of that it was important that we introduce our currency in our currency which is ok supposed to operate. With the u. S. Dollar just briefly foreign minister id like to ask you because you mentioned in the beginning of our conversation that one of one of the ills that is affecting your economy is sanctions weve actually had your president saying that their impact on our daily lives is a measurable that the consequences are dire but are they really because. Or is there just your government just continuing to perpetuate a false narrative here as a convenient scapegoat the United States<\/a> for example says they only have. 141 individuals or come for companies singled out in your country right now in a country of 16000000 not to do all. Do all government of sanctions to this country has caused the serious and unintended consequences of all is called a weapon of mass destruction because this is a dead which exists now is. A study instrument or act on zimbabwe specifically that it shall not access in external support from either the i. M. F. World bank or other International Financial<\/a> institutions and the because of that its means that the risk of. Perceived risk of this country whenever these that hinging aspect of a sanction means that it is higher it to deter investors would lend to come into this country despite the fed but as a mole was open for business which has been propagated by. Muslim nongovernment and therefore we believe that these sanctions are now either live and it is fun as the situation isnt by with its content but there are causing untold sufferings not probably to the if a little but particularly to kowtow must publish of the people and thats what is written by the European Union<\/a> in order the United States<\/a> however i would just like to ask you because youre continuing that with this narrative and by blaming the west for your countrys problems arent you actually shooting yourself in the foot i mean you mentioned that you need foreign capital because the truth is you need very engaged in order to improve your economy which is saddled with billions of dollars in debt at the advent of the 7 the public. President obama clearly articulated these Foreign Policy<\/a> objectives and that was a reengagement engagement basically he was saying we must be a friend to everyone and that we must be and they need to know one and that zimbabwe was open for business and the whole objective of that process was to ensure that we are members of the family of nations who can and who can. Allow. Companies particularly from the west to come in and invest in zimbabwe and the west is encouraging and that is developed up to drive to ensure that company is from the u. S. From the European Union<\/a> from all of these countries from germany should come into the bubble so that they can be able 6 to invest and opportunities that have been say that zimbabwe is probably presenting. Debased vest with but you need to promote investment which emerges for the movers in the International Community<\/a> however now that is. That investment for Many International<\/a> partners one of the precursors for that is the fact that many want you to tackle corruption in your country on july 11th president and he once again he declared war on corruption as he did in 2017 post his takeover speech and in his inaugural speech after the 28000 election so i would like to ask you why should zimbabweans and the International Community<\/a> believe that these are more than just shallow phrases i mean theyre phrases that have been around for a while these are not just phrases the president do when he. Particularly made his detriment on the undercoating day was clear and in terms of direction in which were talking of corruption and a quarter of is something which we are at to mourn and not just something which is the original and you are aware that already. To cut the ministers have been arraigned and go in now not. Livable how is it not their radical mr foreign minister when youve had when youve had more than 2 years in office and several of us have been made that there have been no convictions to date no convictions to date and even the president acknowledges that there is a socalled catch and release system in place yes but remember we have whats a positional powers but do you know the exact deval selves and the judiciary and therefore when people have been arrested and will be charged and everything it is then that is the responsibility of the judiciary to handle the cases particularly the prosecution side so that if they do this with the cases. They are being given the court dates and they are appearing in court of moment and do we believe that we. Should and the not theorising of the whole process is when many people believe in fact it is the 1st time that she has been handled head on in this country than ever before ok so lets look at a very high profile case a concrete case on corruption and that is the case of coulda tog theory he is the boss of such a holdings it is said to have purchased buses from a Chinese Company<\/a> and then resold them to the government at twice the price its costing your citizens a lot of money he apparently made a 54000000. 00 profit here tell us is this an example of the type of business practice that needs to be investigated because theres talk that he got this contract without a proper process of procurement. I think that is a misinformed position is far as were concerned and if theres been any. Such kind of campaign it should have been reported to to this mobile and the Corruption Commission<\/a> but that is what has been reported by the end the rubbish information your former youth leaders in fact reported it to your anti Corruption Commission<\/a> the i. M. F. Reportedly also privately warned zimbabwe that the state payouts of sequential were quote undermining trust in the economy you are pushing it and you are talking hiving fears of the highest levels of government why not just investigate. Earth. Because hes politically connected not at all in fact if you are talking about the issue of buses those buses. A way of bought from. I didnt want is this a prior of and there was a deal of the bus company here in zimbabwe not even. Out of china direct but through the agent who had supplied buses be fall into this country and with their will is head is to contract and these buses were bought when ordered and ordered 3 and the delivered that our transport system is efficient more so under the cover its 90. 6 no there was like there wont be an investigation there so that everythings above them. So mr foreign minister then let me. Just let me ask you about another case where everything does not appear to be above board we also have to mention this high profile case which is currently ongoing that your Health Minister<\/a> who would fire this month for Inappropriate Conduct<\/a> after he was accused of illegally awarding a multimillion dollar contract for covert 1000. 00 medical supplies and just to give a Reference Point<\/a> these masks were apparently costing the government 28. 00 per mask theres been public uproar over this hes facing 15 years in prison if convicted will your citizens see real consequences well that is exactly the testimony all for how the and the corruption brive in this country is because he is been arrested and he has been charged and therefore it means. And what at least appears no no no no its not being caught and released remember just in this country hes going to appear in court and evidence is going to be presented and then it to be up to the judicial. That to convict him or not but thats just not it is not the disposability of of of this sort of. Ok mr foreign minister id like to turn to another issue now and that is the issue of human rights particularly the issue of freedom of assembly has been criticized in your country the president has said that everyone in zimbabwe has the right to express themselves freely to criticize to protest but i just like to bring in one example because these are the protests back in early 2019 Security Forces<\/a> responded reportedly with lethal force killing at least 17 people raping at least 17 women shooting and injuring 81 people or arresting over 1000 suspected protesters during door to door raids that doesnt sound like an ideal condition for people to express themselves freely or does it to you. Well let me assure you. And all the viewers that this government and the constitution of this country clearly article is old the rights rights all through the. Freedom of expression and freedom of religion and so on and besides that theres been a lot of emphasis in terms of. Embedding these rights among the people but there is no freedom in the constitution or in demonstrations or protest there is no freedom. Bending peoples cars and of the like that but it must be this which respects other peoples rights as well lets talk about other peoples rights interfering and also just to acknowledge the violence in this case was against the protesters they were the ones who experienced the fatalities but lets talk about the rights of others and turn to another case. A crackdown on dissent and this happened in may when 3 female opposition activists were on their way to participate in a peaceful protest organized by the opposition they were reportedly stopped at a Police Checkpoint<\/a> in harare subsequently abducted by state agents tortured sexually assaulted a very high profile case in your country is this what opposition leaders can expect in your country theyve subsequently been arrested themselves they havent even received an investigation into what happened to them. It must you must be very careful when you. Are sessions because in the 1st place we were in the we are in because it peeled and because of the cost 8. 00 you cannot have done most of or a symbol for about 50 people in town now if you breach but the law in that regard and you then causes danger to the rest of the population in terms of the instructions it is you are fitting other peoples rights to life which is not in up it which is not appropriate and the other 2nd issue is that you you believe at the moment that. Is that those women but this is a must which is under investigation and this if im going to start this i have truly been produced as actually been produced by the minister of home of his which is clearly that this could be leading to one of those issues which is take money to while. The nation are already done event ok but you didnt i didnt notice holland for their release its also not my assessment its my assess the assessment of the u. N. But id just like to ask you generally speaking because international n. G. O. S they describe a lack of political will when it comes to instituting reforms in your country i just like to quote Human Rights Watch<\/a> it says the following zimbabwes failure to decisively deal with cases of abductions disappearances and torture severely undermines the standing of the country within the International Community<\/a> the country needs to end impunity if symbolic way is to be respected failure to do so undermines the countrys reengagement efforts with the International Community<\/a> how can you possibly convince the International Community<\/a> that zimbabwes open for business when these assessments are so damning. I appreciate that but you must understand exactly where these are being provocative from and aware that they coming from mainly the opposition in this country has got this strategy of attracting attention by stage managing events which we should slap to the International Community<\/a>. As eyes and content and in the reality when theres not been any of such an abduction the example is the muslim day the doctor and even the current lead is something which is under investigation which i dont want to do continue really delving in in it but i can assure you of that we have made reforms and this is the reforms i took in place you are aware that the west has been very concerned about the pasta and did that process has been repealed the west has been concerned about a plan and has been repealed and there is progress in the forms and we are saying that this is the reforms in this timely being undertaken for the for the sake of. The International Community<\/a> or the western capitals but there also are being done for the benefit of all on people so that they should benefit our own people and that this government the 2nd the public zimbabwean foreign minister genuinely pursuing zimbabwe in foreign minister says he is a lawyer we have to leave it there thank you for joining us on conflicts are. Thank you so. Thanks. To. One continent. 700000000 people. With circumstance story. Explored everyday life. Europeans fear and what they hope for. Focus on europe. In 30 minutes on d w. Its the title fight for the heavyweight championship. The challenger rising star with a huge ego. The reigning champ. Established successful and confident. Tesla versus german Car Manufacturers<\/a> the showdown the future of mobility. In germany. In 90 minutes on d w. Were all set. To go beyond the obvious. Were moving. As we take on the world. Were all about is the stories that matter to you. About something. 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