d thomas said i said it was artworks explore the pressing issues of our times reflecting on how we can live more sustainable lives and use our resources more sparingly hes also interested in alternative means of travel and how our can inspire us to think outside the box. A little bit. I just. Dont go you know thank. You very much thank you thank you. The argentinian performance and installation artist takes an interdisciplinary approach to his work and regularly cooperates with Scientific Research institutions like when he launched this experiment in bolivia to test out the possibilities of emissions free air travel. This is sara say knows beilin studio where he plans and prepare as his many projects. Etc center has always been fascinated by the. Interplay between arts and science he studied art and architecture in argentina and then attended frankfurts. Art school on a scholarship he also took part in a nasa research project. Has become an internationally source off to artists in part because his work ponders some of the most urgent questions we face today such as how can we shape our future and how much responsibility do we carry far actions. To make them less so this is a forward who is thomas said to say no you might as well ask me about the some of the different parts what makes someone the course and they are or you but i want to know if i have the feeling we as humans tend to see ourselves as extraordinary as somehow superior to other species. But in reality we struggle to forge Real Relationships with other species or does a basic but Real Relationships founded on solidarity are essential to our progress this is. Santas center began experimenting with the idea of floating cities in 2011. That year he showcased his cloud cities project at butlins hamburger bahnhof gallery this project like so many others question the way we live as a society and in visions new forms of human coexistence and community. Is belin show featured a network of cloud like orbs that visitors could climb into what would it be night to inhabit such a Floating City to live and work there. What matters to sara sena is that we realize that everything is interconnected that we just part of a greater whole. d does he have the feeling that all the attention afforded to him all his success and popularity goes hand in hand with a certain responsibility. Will compass or the. I think responsibility can mean confronting certain problems and kind of mexicans here today we face pressing issues like Global Warming and then the quality going to land i mean dont know when they see were lucky or not but also the extinction of certain species and people dying on this planet on one of them in sort of kind of a kind of a political i dont think it is enough to see individual answers to these issues. In the the loud solo that we need global all encompassing answers. Thats why im always looking to forge new alliances adopt new perspectives and take new steps that can bring about the changes our planet desperately needs where you want to. Be a clinton as it appeared. In autumn 2018 sandison no showcased his own at installation at pariss i laid to tokyo contemporary art venue it focused on the importance of and how we as a species of this vital element. Santo santo set up 76. 00 spider webs to make the ad more tangible as it were spiders have inhabited the us for hundreds of millions of years and seems to spin their intricate web. Where the spider webs were a starting point. Like have been fascinated by them for a very long time theyre connected to the spiders they are a part of their body. You know low rider in only sense a small bug is near because of the vibrations it sends through the well. Without the web but it could neither feel nor see its prey. Most spiders that make webs are blind. By creating a web theyre essentially creating their own sensory ability. In them to feel the world and other species around them. The installation translated the vibrations of spike his movements into o. D. S. Signals creating a kind of a rock made symphony. d tiny dust particles attract and also transformed into sounds the more people pass through this room the more the particles around this find his register these movements and sounds creating a form of interaction between them under visitors. Me. Started with my obsession with spider webs so we set out making all kinds of them mocking our. Technical you also invented a machining together with the Technical University of darmstadt they brought my idea to life basically uses laser signals to weave intricate well really. Complex has. No i mean i think were a country that got many academics interested in living up until then said nobody had managed to create such a detailed map of spider. Yes and this is really my team and so i got i did by the Massachusetts Institute of technology and Max Planck Institute to get them to study spider webs and their surroundings to to better understand these creatures that they that i knew then that im innocent and you know. d go through a hole in it and shes let along with spiders and spider webs and recently is theyve played an Important Role in his Office Holders what exactly fascinate was in the mountain and when did this fascination stops or tickle me so i thought a lot of him what well i always say you work with spiders i always say no spiders work with me because theyve been here for more than 200000000 years so we can only learn from them not the other way around my work is almost anthropological an attempt to reconstruct todays image of what it means to be human in this collection of bacteria and other inhabitants im trying to redefine our relationship to those with when we share the planet. Together with natural scientists sort of said now has set up his own lab in his studio in berlin to study spiders and their behavior. In doing what strikes me at my studio is that many people still suffer from a rock and a phobia is a terrible fear of spiders and immunity to the or. Under when people visit the studio and realize that its largely a hobby led by spiders and spider webs many of them grow uncomfortable for these called for. And least in the us i mean if we kept puppies or kittens here people would say oh what pretty kitties they dont usually. They do that when they see spiders. Yet spiders are very different or less you must aim not only to differentiate between the various species list but to see what unites us and what separates them from one another and of course on the other to discover the Co Relationships and synergies between species think about is something when you come into a spider nets have a special symbolism because you see all these connections these threads which go from one side to the other and they follow that up so if you ask me what fascinates me most about spiders its the special beauty of their webs you know here somewhere. In his installations which take up entire rooms santa senate to nearly place but the patterns and shakes found in his spiders web site. Visit his can even enter into a huge web and experience the world from a spider specific to were. Nope nope its not a case with many of my works because im not thinking about the speculators im also not thinking about the outside world which makes us feel foreign or different though who can with these words im trying to create something all encompassing forward thats why i like to work with really Large Services if you move around on one side of this web the people on the other side move to and of course when i move around i cause vibrations which influence the space that i need them in and the spiders respond. Or maybe this will let us find a new way of communicating with one another and with my work is about creating these kinds of connections and going to out of the ok its not just about seeing whats around us whos in texas look im here im interested in interactions if there is a motor him on a variety of levels and with different groups of people who play couldnt you know. What can we learn about ourselves from working with other species and does this change the way we deal with one another. Sarahs senate doesnt aim to definitively set such questions rather he uses his arts to get people thinking. And his work algorithms visitors and to an Interactive Network they see and feel the vibrations triggered by themselves and of thats. Seem quaint he employs many different disciplines in his art astrophysics engineering and biology he even explores musical composition with the help of spiders so why is this kind of into disciplinary work so important to have workers that important that part of you think that connects you on basically 91 of these there. Because it keeps opening up new worlds when you only look at a phenomenon from one perspective youre missing out on all the other perspective the other ways of sensing reality or thinking about it it seems to me that these days we often forget about these other realities. Is it prompts people to change their perspective and encourage dialogue sort of said always presents the results of his exchanges with natural scientists and experts from a variety of disciplines. He wants all of us to be open to gain twist a Broad Spectrum of finding is. One thats captured scientists and his imagination is humans dont held fascination with flying. In our time the dream of life has turned into a nightmare uniform and thats due to the way we fly its not about that were flying is a total disaster because were reliant on fossil fuels on lithium batteries or other kinds of Raw Materials extracting the. Action endangers the survival of many species. Give us a going on down to 4 we need to find new ways of making the notion of flying a possible dream again. When we look one of those units when you. Think he is santa center has been experimenting with flying arrows solus such a variety of locations around the globe. Planting sculptures saw only by the song and carried only by the wind and the maple flights without the consumption of fossil fuel a radical concept. This is how to mass that i say no started to become interested in the possibilities of a new. One he calls ever seen the aerial era. The present the. Bell and i think the term that best describes the era were living in now is the capital of the i dont see the age of rampant capitalism. The era seen as an epoch of hope and age which is radically different from the capitalist scene gate i come into the. Eye. And does everything that changes our habits but not the climate helps to usher in a new era one we call the era seen. An aerial age and era in which we demonstrate awareness of one another and of the environment and Work Together to invent new rituals and new customs to create this iraq. Thomas said us a nose ever seen projects require a radical rethink. Windley Natural Resources rising emissions Climate Change and the extinction of many species are destroying the very basis of our life on us. Air and seen places that are not human beings at the center of things. Protecting not polluting the element that keeps us alive is its main goal a way of making amends to mother a us while that may sound like a utopian ideal sad to say no and his team have already proven that some of their ideas work in the real world. In argentina the era Seen Foundation team has already set several World Records among them the 1st manned fully solar free flight with a hot air believe it reached a height of 272 meters covered 1. 7 kilometers and was an airborne for over an hour. The teams next goal is to be able to transport several people at once powered only by the suns ultraviolet rays and fulfilling their dream of emissions free air travel. Honestly wonder when these sculptures rise up the 1st thing people say is this how can that be its mesmerizing and a magical moment here before that but suddenly the sculpture turns and theres something on it that was written by another person who is it is so me its like an onion the more layers you peel away the more questions arise as to how these things appear so of course this was a. Koan and do you know weve just got back from argentina we were working a lot with indigenous communities there before and they have taken a clear stand against the colonial processes endangering their environment and our producer that there is lithium mining going on in their territories. Argentina chile and bolivia. Border the area where this socalled white gold is being mined he said and for every ton of lithium we know that 2000000 liters of water are required there are 71 kilos of lithium and one tesla this is an area already plagued by drought. If we start to excavate lithium to satisfy the consumerism of todays Capitalistic Society everyone who lives on the edge of the. Along with the animals and the vegetation there and the communities who live there will be forced to leave because. Thats why we are asking how can we change our habits so that it doesnt lead to Climate Change. What kind of habits and rhythms does the planet desperately require to regain its equilibrium you know. We cant wait for everyone to agree air travel will have to be very different in the future. I. Said a sentence project has become a Global Movement artists scientists designers and activists have joined the ara Scene Foundation that he set up. A community. Its one that comes together and engages in regular dialogue. Like the thought of a community that works like a collective. Thats why we have established 2 foundations. One of them is called arachno feel. Like arachnophobia its members are friends to spiders and there were. It is a Nonprofit Organization that is working to save certain ecosystems the stamens and the kind of community of friends that also exists beyond the studio to say no to this community is researching how we can ensure the long term existence of certain ecosystems and life forms. The 2nd community that has sprung up out of the studio is called aero scene this to consist of people working in the studio as well as an ever growing impassioned community of people outside who are pursuing it as a hobby there are people who believe that we can change our way of life and not just by changing individual mobility but by founding a movement for change. And the era seeing community have developed an explorer collaboration with mit and the red cross it enables anyone to build a floating explorer and calculate its flight path and flight generation y. Isa will software each flight gathers day tear about quality Temperature Humidity and pressure which is fed back into the software giving us more a more information about how planets set ascent oh cools its highways in the sky like the jet stream for instance. I was seen as an open invitation to everyone who is fighting for a future free fossil fuels and dreaming of a new kind of boundless borderless maybe. Set a center slogan is from home a sappy end to homo futon to. Gold for me art always means an art dialogue or an Exchange Going on that for example the art involving the spiders and spiders web. We have to form new alliances and new ways of working to understand our world clearly. The categories that exist today tend to separate us from one another rather than to unite us. Its. Seems to me that art can help us in this process forward with a new heart has this ability this generosity or this innocence that the people who say no in art you continue to search with childlike innocence and it seems to me that that is exactly what can help us to see the world with other raw. Data center is continually venturing out with childlike curiosity into the world that he can better understand our planet and our cosmos literally. Or. What those. Projects give vent to rise and has taken him to the new unis salt flats in bolivia the artist is fascinated by the way the horizon quite literally dissolves. The good. In the early hours of the morning a very thin layer of water vapor hovers above the surface of the flats and for just a few moments the horizon looks as if it has been ever a. The surface of the earth forms a giant mirror of the universe that surrounds us d its a fascinating meditative phenomena and. You can even see reflections of light emitted by the large magnetic cloud a neighboring universe 163000 years away. Short of reflection about the future is of central significance. What plans does he have for his own future. One of the impulse when you. Were going to go 100 more when he was my plans for the future are to continue working as we have done recently and they found. The same time to increasingly question the logistics of the art industry the transport of artwork and my own mobility. And to consider alternative ways for us artists to be present or if if if we become conscious of our planet and its atmosphere then we should also start to show solidarity with all of the others on board the Co Passengers in our world at the planet but we need to consider how we can continue this journey together to see. These i mean all rights to whats going on here and now. Its also an invitation to engage with burning question a bounce off each. P. F. I want to know can i hope that the balloon that lifted off with 2 passengers and who provinces will soon be able to carry 3 or 4 people. And if we can already fly at an altitude of up to 272 meters for almost 2 hours but then i hope that in the future youll be able to travel to interview me from colombia for example without your having to take a plane. But the journey is the destination journey we will often lose our way on this journey but we will continue on with enthusiasm and hope for the independence. Moving. The flaming. Eco lets move for. Drought instead of rainy season in rwanda Climate Change is threatening harvests. A startup is now increasingly yields itzhak informs farmers about the plants water makes. Solar energy and surest cheap in british. Climate smart eco look out for god. And 30 minutes on d w. Climate change making it possible. And forcing demand some researchers think there are ideas about. What the future is. A measure. 60 minutes on t. W. Board or. 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