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DW Zu Tisch July 12, 2024

Got back to the part about contact. With the black lives matter new mentor new migratory flows european colonialism has been center stage centuries of european imperialism are still impacting on the modern world but this legacy is often completely missing from political discourse how deeply on our western societies themselves rooted in colonialism. What are the questions we need to be asking for anxious to respond. Images of people under colonial rule objectified by the white. Or the few brushstrokes american artist Raj Kumar Carlo reinvents these photos and many. Others. She paints a wavy think sought to sizing white european view of the world and the way so many in the west see history. I work very fast i work very intuitively and i just let the images kind of come out and often what happens is that theres a kind of funny or violent. Pushback to the image. I mean was bird means girl with a taste for revenge. A woman in india weaving cloth for a superpower. So it seems islanders uniting and solidarity. Photograph station to buy. In the 19th and 20th centuries come on kahlo has been free claiming them for 20 years she says he still shaped how people winch others even today. These images exert power and they still exert power over my life how i see myself and how i see others and i think thats true for every everyone and so why these images can still exert this influence is what interested in exploring like how does power work how does power work in images. And why do those images still affect how people see me. Close as she feels less like a foreigner here in her adopted home grillin than she did in california where she was born to indian parents. I actually see myself as equal parts. And so for me it was always rooted in this perspective that i am american and its from the lens of being a person of color. In the us but also being in america and so having this imperial history and legacy as part of my identity and these were always a starting point for me that understand. And tikal. In history. In the rest of the world. Russia commo kahlo has reclaimed hundreds of photos from this book the peoples of the earth originally published in 1002 as an Academic Work she sees it as more of a collection of colonial fairy tales she dissects them and overlays them with new content laden with irony and political commentary. Gaskins are futuristic aeronauts and persian dervish as western. Its also about the type of representation where people are pictured so that their humanity is not pursing encounter when you look at their pictures and for me the projects all my projects are about kind of bringing this humanity about. The series do you know our names theres a similar active rehabilitation based on images of womens bodies from the same book stereotyped for ethnographic research. A lot of these original images the women were without hair without close the eyes were focused there was like so little representation of their humanity or their dignity or their beauty the painting for me was a type of care i started to give them makeup i started to give them a modern hairstyle i started to give them clothes and they suddenly started to have an identity and dignity that was taken from the original photograph. Her latest. Project focuses on how the media approaches people who fled their homes compared to more privileged travellers painted on to pages of an expedition reports filed by wilfred facet progeny of a British Colonial dynasty. For me wilfrid this is your symbolize kind of everything i hate. And. Big thing to like is aristocratic british and who traveled to tribal people in saudi arabia and hes considered a hero by everyone in the world he gets to define what history is he gets to say what is the what and people listen and then on the other and the other spectrum of this trouble. Is the refugee and the refugee is path. They are criminalized and they are here. Raj kumar carlo counters this image with portraits of people looking from the pages of passengers travel. She uses colonial era photographs to tell stories about the press. The question should be what is colonialism and not rape so its like if you think about environmental. Catastrophe of the environment right now if you think about borders if you think about migration if you think about military occupations everything is conditioned by colonial histories and policies and the continuous. Subjects games out of this world. For mean beauty is the important part of the protests its. About my own sense of empowerment and then also its about giving agency to the people that are part of its a kind of redistribution of power. Should build a city in the north of england is when johnny pitts grew up. A journalist Television Presenter and photographer his mother was from dont want winton class family and his father was an African American so musician pitts book afro payne traces his journey through black europe to uncover black european identities that go beyond cliche. You either get images of black people in tower blocks and hoodies looking like theyre violent or images of black people or sports stars and smiling or like at festivals or carnivals and how in foreign parts but you dont often see the in between the of things the banality the everydayness i want to work commute i want to people on the metro. Going going to pick the kids up from school to get a kind of every day black experience that kind of tries to normalize rather than exhaust societys blackness in your. Field and johnny pitts travel to paris and brussels want to answer them stuck in my saying he wanted to meet black europeans from the most diverse backgrounds is the son of an African American he experienced the Structural Racism 1st chance but he knows that his experiences are different from those of many other black britons. While my dad was brought to this very house you know the neighbors would say ah thats richie the american the entertainer there was a kind of romance about it there was something that was exotic about him so people would look at him and after think about British Colonialism so thats a very different experience of course the black community is aware here who who have this shared history who tangled up in colonialism. Johnny pitts tells us about the effects of imperialism on black people in europe the legacy of colonialism and what drew him to back through the continent i did start to know is a rising racism and it troubled me and i start to know its a kind of insularity that was taking place in this country that scares me a smooth brown skin living on an island. That is leaning towards the right so i wanted to look beyond britain i discovered an old continent that was creaking. And black community is very often living on the periphery of europe. And the notion of blackness that never really fit together properly you know the more i try top the afro solidly on to something the more it fell apart and what is afro paean isnt something that actually exists or is it a construct its definitely a construct i dont want to say exactly what the word if it resonates if you feel like you want something that can explain a kind of. Pull oral isnt in a single word than you might flock to and thats what happened in very quickly the community emerged around this word and i think thats something the the black community in europe havent had historically in the same way that the Africanamerican Community of god you know a kind of solidarity in the face of racism different pian interweave stories of the people pitts meets on his journey with the history and beauty in colonial ism sleight of atrocities what you peons committed on africans who still often shrouded in silence to die that includes the genocide people trying to buy imperial german troops against whomever a number of people in present day media. Germans often seem to deny or even suppress their history of colonialism was that your impression i find that there is a bit of kind of historical amnesia about german colonialism if you think of the where africa was carved up it was actually in berlin africa was called the people across europe got together in berlin to decide which parts of africa they would choose for themselves which is why the continent of africa is full of the natural Straight Lines that were drawn by somebody in europe on a rule and said well take that part you know and so i think there is a great forgetting all across the continent not just in germany i think one of the places that really shocked me is belgium because you know of course belgian colonialism was a particularly very kind of colonialism that made the massacred more than 10000000 congolese. d how did countries like belgium justify you know treating people in such a inhumane and cruel way one of the things that really bothered me about what found in belgium was was found in a book called 10000 in congo and i was a big fan of tintin growing up i watched the cartoons and i read the books what scared me is seeing this edition of tension in congo that was used as propaganda for belgian colonialism. So you had this notion that belgian colonialism was a kind of force for good was a benevolent force that was providing infrastructure for these these lazy or inept africans when of course the real reason they were in belgium was because they were exploits in the ivory and the robot you know during the Industrial Revolution ringback. What would it mean to take responsibility i guess political sense where theres a conversation about reparations which im completely on board with i dont see why black communities shouldnt receive money for for. You know the things that create a system that still places him at the bottom i think there needs to be a level of honesty and i think it does start with teaching colonialism in schools when im criticizing europe when im criticizing this country our europe to be a better place i want to take part in europe. I want britain to be a better place im fighting for this country but maybe not in the way that people traditionally fought for it which is you know to keep. Prejudices in place. Joining. A europe that confronts its colonial past head on and stops marginalizing black people. Many valuable artifacts from african countries are held in european museums in fact the treasures are here testifies to a colonial past and triggers modern day controversy should they be repatriated and what context can european museums show them today. When we go to those museum we look at those objects. Like a disney vacation thing. I think institutions any and. Hold global north africa a conservative that means they dont want to change that poll position i. Take the lens noise museum it holds the famous bust of now for t. T. Which attracts hundreds of thousands of visitors each year for close to a century egyptians have been demanding her return without success so how can these art collections be freed from their colonial context and made accessible to everyone artists nor al badri and yon nicholai mehlis published this 3 d. Scan of national t. V. Online without the museums permission. As long as not just the physical artifact but also the. Kind of narrative around it because then you can decide which research for example you give it to with the data in the Public Domain berlin state museums lost their monopoly over this cultural treasure at least digitally now anyone with a 3 d. Printer can make their own efforts one replica now lies buried in the egyptian desert as a kind of symbolic restitution. That actually matter when all. Material objects are in another country and completely. And actually. Violently. So it doesnt matter where the object is who gets to tell the story the museum is also the point of the transmission of the museum has. Story publishing the data set on a Public Domain with an effort. Without the project very important that now reality has changed because everyone can actually. Talk about it discuss it. With the help scraped data 3 d. Technology and Artificial Intelligence badri begin to reconstruct the history of mesopotamia to do this she had to collect thousands of images of real objects she managed to get access to the databases of european museums through the digital back door. As long as those. Kind of just so i think theyre not relevant for the world and they dont connect to whats going on today whereas i think the objects and their stories too are totally and through this digital. Techno heritage its possible to reappropriate the meaning of representation and. I mean for Nora Al Badri the images have special meaning because they represent the Cultural Heritage of her fathers homeland. Mission is one of the few works that actually have a very biographical component i would say because im half iraqi is a country which i could never visit so little bit of research for like how did he look like and can be recreate some things without just copying it but generating completely new objects and thats important especially in a region which is nowadays iraq where everything usually is just destroyed and looked at the way a project fossil futures also employs Digital Technologies to tackle the issue of stolen Cultural Heritage and public property and southern tanzania many dinosaur bones were unearthed during the german colonial domination tons of these valuable fossils were taken abroad d. It was the sports and tender group where the dinosaur which is today centerpiece of the Natural History museum in berlin was excavated and seen exploited today it is a land grab by Multinational Companies the exact same spot and of course the people there are. Great and i totally understand this and so for all of my projects i go to this place and talk to the people one of these places is berlins girl its all part of torrijos drug dealing many of the dealers here fled from Subsaharan Africa they lack work permits and prospects badri is planning an event where these men will peddle art drugs. I think its like that you asian and real time here what we can see. And thats constantly violating the right. Like bodies and my proposition here are. And if acceptance for imagining another world. Nor ill badri firmly believes that the power of art can break down colonial structures and inequality has created. A sort of electronic beat. After a breakup. Produced this track in camera. Crying the same time. She says women there were treated with more respect before the europeans came. Out of. This new side. To find. Such an impact. They were raising the culture of the people of imagining of a black man in the attention 1st century. I couldnt swallow my pride trust i try you know you. Turn when she left cameron came to germany along with her 2 brothers. Their mother wanted to do her doctorate at a german university. Coming here it was the dream of the small African Child white culture is on the t. V. Everywhere its the norm its the standard so when you know as a 10 year old that youre going to europe its like the sugar candy. But in a small town in southern germany she was the only black girl around she experienced the burden of being a mother of racism they dont teach you about their lives in terms of where we sort of come from and how did well come to europe in such an amount it came from their colonies and its really insane to me to be in this work and go to school so many years where they teach you supposedly about the world youre going to be living and. This huge part of history. When she was 20000 decided to return to cameroon in search of her. And it was really researching where im coming from where war my in terms of legacy and history. And it was really sad also to see that my parents. How little connection to even what was before that. She wanted to establish a musical connection to jeff no welcome home is about family and all its strengths and flaws. When i went to come i was playing the guitar and i was singing and i got to come on and just realize that. The guitar was too lazy in its not loud enough i couldnt hold on like europe is very close. In europe and supergirl yeah on this. Its like when the adrenaline so it didnt matter the energy. She changed styles experimented with electronic beats and made sound collages discovering the world a new in the process. And just a mix of african reality images with a sickly but. Past and from now. Now spends most of her time in germany she lives with her young daughter in berlin but africa is a strong part of the mix on this track she sample speeches by kwame and crew mock the 1st leader of an independent gonna. And mixes them with bits of dialogue she recorded during taxi rides around cameroon. She no longer feels the need to enlighten germans who blank on their countrys colonial past in germany i have conversations more with people like jim need to do. In berlin the bala gets a taste of home at this cameroonian restaurant these days her search for identity has faded a bit into the background. The mixture of the to make. Because going back to come and that. Go back to. The bank. Which was true but i guess i needed to do that to figure. So its at the end of the day for me to create that that mixture in my everyday life i try school because its just very much healthy its a healthy balance. And thats something she hopes to pass on to her daughter. What i discovered when they did that is not that important its ok. To live in that space not knowing and uncertainty while enjoying the journey to maybe be calling closer to war. So these berlin street names that are a relic of germanys colonial past dont discourage them both she says the future of the streets lies in the hands of the citys black communities. The past can help the future mapped 21. Next time. Above. Smaller transpired big changes made the people making the most of all moscow africa fantastic might. Join them as they set out to save the environment learn from one another and Work Together for a Better Future play many cars do you all for tuning in coca for. 30 minutes on d w. These are not the mountains in the origin of the garbage everywhere. So you know ali says enough already the environmental activist and her fellow campaigners are traveling around the archipelago educating and advising the boy and cleaning up they are fighting exactly the type of trash. In 60 minutes on t. W. It is specialist dogs in germany good fun good. Deluge travel. Exposure for an event. Sometimes. Senseless. What connects people the stronger the midsummer its the ball is so st

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