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Transcripts For DW Markus Lanz 20240712

Like a president and more like an arsonist im burnt off in berlin this is the day. This is a cliff i am emergency this is real. And its happening this is the perfect storm troopers the great environmentalist here that it is the california folks is america fast forward but there are places where they. Are. What were experiencing right here is coming to a community all across the United States of america unless we get our act together on Climate Change but if he gets a 2nd term these hellish events will continue to become more common more devastating and more deadly. Also coming up china is germanys biggest trading partner china is also a human rights abuse or german chancellor Angela Merkel is weighing both carefully at the e. U. Chinas summit now underway and the topics which it difficult where we dont always agree hong kong for example the treatment of minorities and the issue of human rights. So i feel that today we had a good open honest dialogue which should. We continued. On to our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world at welcome we begin the day with Climate Change suddenly burning its way into the u. S. President ial campaign there are less than 5 weeks until voters in the u. S. Go to the polls if you have followed incumbent donald trump and his democrat challenger joe biden you may have noticed that Climate Change has been almost completely absent when on the more u. S. President visited california on monday and came face to face with the consequences of a warming planet in the past weeks unprecedented wildfires have scorched 50000000 acres claiming winds and destroying homes the smoke has made the air quality in cities such as Portland Oregon and San Francisco the worst in the world and Climate Change is not directly responsible for the blazes but it is responsible for the conditions allowing them to become so large and so deadly scientists agree white house hopeful joe biden agrees President Donald Trump does not trump has always denied Climate Change this weekend and again today he blamed the fires on poor Forest Management accusing the states of not keeping their forests clean take a listen this is one of the biggest birds weve ever seen. And we have to do a lot about Forest Management obviously Forest Management in california is very important. And now its it extends to washington and extends also do our a gun has to be good strong Forest Management with that but dug it about 3 years with the state so hopefully theyll start doing that in the meantime were helping them out. Out in a very big way. In a moment were going to go to los angeles to talk about trumps visit but 1st we want to take a closer look at the fires those trying to contain them and those who have lost almost everything to them tonight use Washington Bureau chief in this poll is in Northern California where thousands of people who were evacuated are now returning to scenes of utter devastation. Nothing but destruction this is all that is left on the 5 acres so far with and in Northern California where sorrow hawkins and her husband have created a Little Paradise over the last 17 years to go only 4 hours before everything was destroyed left are only shards of memories programmed mothers good china items they collected over decades the fire was coming across short grass it was coming across dirt there was no place that we knew for sure would be safe. Here in this barn several lost all her 17 baby goats to the flames we didnt have time to get the trailer. We didnt know that we were in any kind of danger no fires ever move this fast out here. You know when we came back the next day. Ill never forget seeing the burned bodies in the barnyard. People like sarah who are living in this part of the world are used to wide fires they have never experienced Something Like this year multiple mega fires burning millions of acres have been destroyed millions of residents have to live in talk seek air the whole west coast seems on fire some climate experts say Climate Change is smacking california in its face. In claremont we speak with the director of environmental analysis Charlie Miller human beings are driving Climate Change theyre driving it because in fact were in cars in Southern California and elsewhere that were pumping up went into the air thats heating up the planet and the atmosphere and so when the fire earth are burning theyre actually burning up the results of our own actions sarah hawkings is not willing to give in and hes already building a new barn knowing that the next fire might take everything away again. Our lives stay in california lets go to los angeles as where even beer in is 290000 is a us political commentator hes a nationally syndicated talk radio host it is good to have you back on the day u. S. President trump is in your neck of the woods in california today what are people saying about him and his reelection hopes considering that he has put the blame on the states for not properly managing their force. Well anybody whos not already a trump supporter looks at it with. Not pleasant comments in return 57 percent of the states forests are actually controlled by the federal government so if President Trump over the last 3 and a half plus years doesnt like how they are managed thats on him 3 percent of the states forests are managed by the state of california and to have our governor essentially begging the president to Vice President Joe Biden Joe biden just called a climate arsonist begging him for help as nearly 2 dozen people have lost their lives its a sad and desperate situation that we have a president lacking empathy for the people of california who just simply lacks empathy for the rest of the largest or you to consider that with what job i mean the democrat president ial hopeful said today about the fires in Climate Change take a listen if you give a climbing arsonist 4 more years in the white house why would anyone be surprised if we have more America Blaise if you have a climate denier for more years in the white house why would anyone be surprised when more of america is under water. Either would you agree that these fires have placed Climate Change higher up on the agenda for voters there in the us west where you wore. I think those of us who consider science the Scientific Method scientific observation it clearly has moved up again we have watched for nearly 4 years the sitting president rolling back environmental protections removing policies that would stop methane emissions pulling us out of the Paris Climate Accords withdrawing from the world and our allies such as germany working hand in hand to address such a major global issue those of us who arent on the side of President Trump do consider it a dire and important situation of must be addressed now i want us to do a poll of one of your tweets which called our today you read tweeted the cover of the german news magazine stare and on the cover is the face of President Donald Trump with the headline american psycho how donald trump is systematically destroying democracy now even i know most of your listeners are in the u. S. Why did you feel compelled to share that image with the people who follow you. Well this is thank you for asking me this is really important brant 1st of germany obviously going back to the early 20th century is familiar with leaders who are not well and do very bad things to the people of their country and others and so for it german magazine to publish that i found that critically important because while i believe in the american system in our 3 branches of government and all of these policies and structures have been put in place for over the last 200 years i had no concept that a single individual and his supporters and enablers would do such an advanced job of dismantling those systems so rapidly in a way that i find to be truly dangerous to our democracy and so for the german magazine to publish that i just find to be completely accurate and something we need to be aware of. A surprise that the german the Mainstream Media here they see that and they print it and yet you still have a relatively strong level of support for daunte trump in the us. Yes and no so because of the way human psychology works and we know going back to people like machiavelli there are ways of manipulating people using fear we see that with the far right in germany as well and across europe and donald trump is using those same age old methods of appealing to the lizard brain the union shadow bringing that out in people and people are susceptible to it if they have pain or trauma in their own lives he is able to manipulate and its dangerous its bad its wrong i call it out and i think more people should as well. Before we let you go i want to ask you about the pandemic in California California is one of the worst hit states in the United States now youve got the wildfires on top of that so one said to me today california dreaming is more like a california nightmare now it is there this sits in l. A. Where you are that all that was so spectacular about california is just falling away well in the moment it feels like that however thats thats not the case here in California California still the golden state you have so much that is happening here at the beautiful nature when its not on fire or when we have a pandemic keeping us locked in our homes but we have the beautiful beaches we have the deserts the mountains we have all the things that make california great and along with hollywood and agriculture the Tech Industry theres so much happening here this is a moment in time that will pass regardless of donald trump and others however in this moment of darkness you know it is hard to see that light on the other side you know its a good point and were all big california fans here i can tell you that even if they have been joining us tonight from los angeles even as always we appreciate your time and your insights thank you stay safe. Thanks fred. Well this week could have been a legacy defining moment for german chancellor Angela Merkel she had hoped that the e. U. China summit in the german city of white signal would be where an unprecedented improvement in ties with china could be forged but this was before the coronavirus pandemic this was before the hard line in hong kong the summit began today all online they face to face and no hope of really making history instead the chancellor today demanded that trade between the e. U. And china be conducted on a level Playing Field she also said that europe should stand up for its core values such as respecting human rights even if it requires delicate diplomacy with beijing. Cooperation with china it must be based on the principles of reciprocity frak competition as well of different societies we have different social systems but we acknowledge the importance of multiculturalism i mean points of rules when it comes to Climate Change and climate protection. The e. U. And china welcome the Paris Agreement that is extremely important and we want to have a high level dialogue take place which doesnt just take place off the cuff but its rather more of a systematic nature to a dialogue between the e. U. And china where we talk about the close go Climate Conference at the end of the year we managed to talk about the topics which our mission is already mentioned and to topics which are difficult where we dont always agree hong kong for example the treatment of minorities and the issue of human rights. So i feel that today we had a good open honest dialogue which should be continued. There was a german chancellors meet you there my next guest has been hard barred she is an analyst in Chinese Affairs with the very Foundation Mr barger its good to have you. Back on the day when this is a huge china summit was 1st suggested there was real hope that now would be the time for a breakthrough for better relations with china but it seems now theres growing anti China Sentiment tear in europe what would you say what went wrong well i think like you said there was hope to get a more productive and with china going that didnt happen but i think something really significant happened then also happened today it wasnt any concrete out be there be china you know investment treaties signed but the whole process we created a big amount of european unity and the chancellor actually pointed that out in her press that the whole process of bringing europe together and actually speaking with one voice. China was important and that actually happened and what we saw today the 3 most important equal in the iraqi well into the chinese president really easy reading of the same script being totally in line i think that is something significant for european foreign policy. Going forward i mean thats thats an important statement to make that the force of china is able to do in europe what other things such as migration and even Climate Change have not been able to do and that is to bring all of europe together do you see it being as a sustaining unity for the e. U. Because of china i would hope it to be that way and the process that weve seen in the last couple of months or year or so has really been very encouraging. Delegations from all capitals in europe coming together and discussing china issues china is one of the issues where its easier to build consensus within the e. U. But one of the big problems that we always have is that we have this notion that in europe we dont eat with one voice and you gave us something that we can and theres other issues where we cant and that is something significant and i think that is also something that chinese see very clearly it because jeno today was not easy for the chinese its not the kind of summit or leadership talk that they wanted because. It really pushed hard on some issues that are very uncomfortable you know weve heard today from the e. U. That europe is a player not a Playing Field in other words china is not playing fair with europe why is that criticism justified in your opinion the chancellor pointed that out. President fundal i also pointed out that the economic realities have shifted to can efficiently in the last decade and. The global is symmetries in the Economic System need to be adjusted and china is such a big player today that the rules by which we engage with china have to be we written or we have to insist that china actually plays by the rules of multilateralism thats another term that came up today last week the European Chamber of commerce in china published their annual report in which they point out hundreds and hundreds of cases where European Companies feel at a disadvantage in china at a very systematic disadvantage and that is why this investment rate as being discussed is so important but its also important to make it a good deal and not just and there have been calls to boycott disney because of its latest film law and the film was shot on location in the same area of china where the Muslim Minority we girls are said to be held in internment camps and now we have the European Union suggesting that china should allow it to send in independent investigators to see what is indeed happening at those camps do you think thats going to happen or do you think its Wishful Thinking on the part of europe. I dont think this Wishful Thinking on the part of europe its a reasonable request for european diplomats to make to actually allow european diplomats to go to and look at it and it will be important that they look at it with clear eyes that they report back what they being show and what theyre not being shown obviously china is going to make it so that would be my very strong expectation and im going to see the trust the teeth that have been reported from khinjan in the last couple of years but at. The end the toss of the european diplomats to point that out that china is putting up a show lets see the see what happens in similar discussions along too but theres been similar just tensions both the w. H. O. Investigation into the origins of covert 19 theres a lot of issues going on ok bernard barge with the bettles been Foundation Mr mark as always we appreciate your time and your insights tonight thank you thank you brant. Doctors here in berlin treating russian Opposition Leader alexina all these say that his condition is improving of all he is considered the most prominent kremlin critic and he was flown from siberia to berlin in late august after suddenly becoming severely ill f

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