Berlin this is the day. Its also of course good leverage your veto your even your secret u. S. Its a little like the regular flu this week flu shots for have a look at the web thats a good question the water. Never down the face of the earth friends again the president expressed calm there is damning proof. That donald trump lied. Well i think if you said in order to reduce panic perhaps thats. Also coming up what does u. K. Prime minister Boris Johnson want most for christmas millions and millions of coronavirus tests and no 2nd lockdown with new infections increasing is that wish list wishful thinking. And everything comes together it may be possible even for some of the most difficult sectors like the theaters to have life much closer to normal before christmas. Once of our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome weve begin the day with explosive revelations about u. S. President donald trump and what he did and didnt do at the start of the coronavirus pandemic veteran washington reporter bob woodward interviewed the president 18 times for his latest book about the Trump Administration those talks were recorded and have now been made public the words of donald trump unfiltered undeniable and unnerving the u. S. President knew in early february about the dangers of the corona virus but he chose to downplay those dangers to the public he knew the virus was spreading through the air yet he continued holding rallies with thousands of people indoors no masks no warnings 190000 people in the u. S. Have died from the virus and the outbreak in america is still not under control 40000 new cases are reported every day yet trump is defending his record saying he said what he said when he did in order to prevent a national plan. Where he needed. To down play for the. Well i think if you said in order to reduce panic perhaps that cell effect is im a cheerleader for this country i love our country and i dont want people to be frightened i dont want to create panic as you say and certainly im not going to drive. This country or the world into a friend. We want to Show Confidence we want to show strength we want to show strength as a nation and thats what ive done and weve done very well weve done well from any standard you look at our numbers compared to other countries other parts of the world its been an amazing job that weve done the u. S. President speaking there are critics such as democratic president ial candidate joe biden say that the president is guilty of unprecedented negligence that he failed to protect the people take a listen to what u. S. Senator Chuck Schumer and House Speaker nancy pelosi said about the revelations we all know President Trump puts himself 1st but this time the consequences were deadly and when i think about how many people in my state died in february and march and april it just makes me angry i cannot believe he deceived the American People the way he did how many people would still be alive today if he just told americans the truth he had not been a geisha and to tell them the truth ex post facto he comes up with excuses they dont carry any weight its the truth that matters especially when its life and death and this is a tragedy beyond words what the president did showed him yes and those comments showed his contempt contempt for the American People and their health contempt push science can and contempt for any real effort to crush the virus contempt for his supporters their children their parents he hid the facts and refused to take the threat seriously leaving the entire country exposed and unprepared if they want to cause a panic what i thought the stock market. All right richard painter joins me now from minneapolis hes a law professor and hes a former chief white house ethics lawyer mr painter its good to have you on the program we wanted to talk to you because these already are recordings they speak not only to the truth about what the president was thinking in saying but also to the ethics of the u. S. Presidency what did you think when you heard these audio recordings terrorist are numbers the United States are are not work harbors that much of western europe including germany and countries that dealt with it brought a virus crisis quickly decisively without lying to the top and the fact that weve had hundreds of thousands of americans die of the cross of virus is directly attributed back to our government did not respond at times with a president who knows about the dangers of this virus is it made it an take that he knew about the years and yet he isnt lying to the American Public and that is tragic and this idea that he didnt want to create a document makes absolutely no sense this is not trying to prevent a stock market crash or financial crises were panic might be relevant this is a Public Health emergency and the sooner a country gets on top of the situation and deals with it the better and that is why our numbers in our states are death toll is much higher than it was in so much of western europe japan korea the list goes on and on the countries that dealt with this war at the hands fendi in august things went on line to the bacon its a misprint id like for you do take a listen to what leading republicans in washington said today when they were asked about these odio recordings and then i want to get your reaction take a listen. You know well 1st let me ask you about the kobe that he downplayed the seriousness of the coronavirus despite telling woodward privately that he knows how deadly it is im not this is the 1st ive heard of that so im not the bombshell had to be your response to the allegation is reported in Bob Woodwards book i think on tape i havent read the book the president on tape says i always wanted to play it down the coronavirus i still like playing it down was the president lying to the American People who then died because their president was downplaying a threat to them. I didnt look at the woodward book i will later but i havent even seen what youre referring to you know clearly thats a question for the white house anyway the question for the white house do you agree with Mitch Mcconnell is to painter is this a question so leave for the white house now i was 38 years i certainly dont rush it but distraction. And lets not rip up im already im whats all right for as lying to the american. With hundreds of thousands are there other d this is the response oh not just the president but a call 1st including Mitch Mcconnell who presided over an 8000 donald trump for his attempts to extort him praying to the election well and the senate had a responsibility to have a real good so theyre really just covering residence which is very attractive whats going to have this president talking over much of the Republican Party may suffer because of this well. And serve as you said in the white house if you can you imagine what the mood must be like inside the white house tonight. I have no idea whats going on and the Trump White House this is america Bush White House the Obama White House they just received that rule of law as white house is. Screaming at everything is the president s reelection d and then wonder why did america d. We have as they are of our but of justice every our both our government turning what our president Little Campaign and i later found out shot list of serious violations and it says i dont live up to the American People those on and on a lot so i cant imagine what the loot is in the white house in fleece the types of thief then i certainly wouldnt want to have in any way if. I think we were supporting president drop the waste but i think its very dangerous. You say that there are lies coming out of the white house yet the doctor found she who is the us is tough Public Health official he he has said just yesterday that he does not think that there was any distortion in the communication about the pandemic from the White House Task force or coming from the white house. You know you as an ethics expert what do you think dr felt she is trying to do there. I have no idea why he saying that because for the several months and this and that he was very clear that we did to address. That so a 19 crisis of what he says is way out ahead of the white house he disagreed with the white house keepers being fired by donald trump now apparently wants to try to save his job by or speaking out with the president about his representations that obviously we know a full well consult with record that art is oh yes agree with the president particularly in the early states that march april may with respect to the dangerous as cyrus is so. Its very very tragic the United States as we cant focus on sots and solve problems by response was supposedly woke up and yet you know president was perpetually take note not only about our Foreign Policy it was like the russians and so forth for the final series that requires it as well as a sense of what a 1000 americans lost do you think mr bring to the doctors in the white house the White House Task force they did not contradict the president in public very often if at all do you think that theyve failed in their responsibility to protect the Public Health to me should they have said in front of the president no mr president what youre saying is not true. Well wait perhaps a or c. Would have fire and we wouldnt have any doctors at all to deal with this. Problem when the president United States has the power to fire one mobile. Or ordered out article 2 of our cost to just fire people at their jobs because they disagree with that we have Public Health officials and others he shouts out as president feeling that they could do more public goods day in their job to kowtow. Rather than standing up to them and the rule i believe this is very dangerous for our democracy because as you team is different if we run out of time you are republican you say that the Republican Party is also in crisis do you see these revelations being Strong Enough to impact the results of the vote on election day in the event or do you think this could ensure that donald trump is not reelected. Well well see what happens. I was republican for 30 years i left the Republican Party 2000 i think because i simply cannot stand when lots coming from donald trump and i cant imagine the American People who dont want to send 4 more years and this is on top of Everything Else thats happened everything well its rush praying for the fire as if i was going to turn in the middle of criminal investigations laras the public right left the secretary of state over jerusalem and basically giving him. While he supposedly conducting middle east policy file a shit about how much act it goes on it and i think the American People have seen enough and we really need a fresh start to settle just by him or them again unless. This is this has been a disastrous president s for United States and i believe the best majority of American Voters will realize that im a legend. Richard painter former chief white house ethics lawyer for former president george bush mr pena we appreciate your time and your insights tonight valuable insights thank you thank you very much. Like the United States germany has been building a fence along its border but the aim here is to keep out african swine fever which is widespread now in neighboring poland now the 1st case of the disease has been confirmed here in germany in a wild boar the Infectious Disease is not dangerous to humans but it is deadly for pigs and authorities have been preparing containment measures to protect the countrys pork industry which is europes biggest. This electric fence was unable to keep african swine flu from crossing into germany from poland a dead wild boar found near the border tested positive for the virus that prompted the state to take quick action. Essence einstein can this 1st of all limits on foot and vehicle traffic inside the specified area where african swine fever has been found 2nd blocking off the restricted area. 3rd limitations on or an outright ban on hunting for its limitations or a ban on agriculture in the area the virus spreads by direct contact between animals via animal blood and through improperly disposed of contaminated food it can survive for months or even years and meet eventually if the economic consequences are that producers in the affected areas will be cut off from the market and put under strict restrictions and germany as a whole wouldnt be able to export pork to countries outside the e. U. He. Expects. An export ban could only be lifted after 6 months from now the highest priority is to contain the virus and that means were prepared to support farming operations that have been affected so in districts and typical friends and the Farmers Association has demanded a call of wild boars. Britain is also struggling with a resurgence of covert 19 infections and Prime MinisterBoris Johnson has a plan to reverse the trend he calls it operation. It aims to test up to 10000000. 00 people every day by the start of next year at a cost of 100000000000. 00 pail its all planned this moonshot that im describing will require a joint collaborative effort from government business from Public Health professional scientists the just 6 experts and many many more. Work is under way now and we will get home at pace and 2 we get run the clock and there is Boris Johnson there for more on this story lets cross now to carlisle in the u. K. And bring in dr John Campbell he also works as an independent Health Analysts he has generated a sizable following on social media to do his reasoned and rational insights into everything corona virus pandemic kemas good to see you again lets leave and lets look at the numbers here 10000000 tests a day now if you look at the population of the u. K. You could test the whole population of britain in about a week and have most of sunday off is this a sensible idea. This is an interesting unfolding story which is part based on fact in part based on fiction the factual pot is the Prime Ministers briefing last night at the regular downing street briefing where we talked about this saying there was going to be a trial of this new method in sulphide in the u. K. But then there was a leak occurred earlier on today where the British Government was communicating with the Scottish Government and somewhere along the way this story leaked out and was picked up by the british medical journal and they got hold of these ideas that there was going to be 10000000. 00 tests that day that the entire population was going to be tested every week but its still based on the sort of in to go home and sort of paper at the moment so to to be kind to the author which is i think we could describe this is the government thinking aloud because theres many reasons why this idea really is a complete nonstarter i mean the costs of completely absurd the practicality practicalities of it really are not there its described as a 1000000 technologies you know that was the technologies we dont really have yet it would require a very simple test like a saliva test and the governments have said the result will be back in 20 to 90 minutes but then what are you going to do with. Results when you get it now the more tests that you have the more likely it is to be a poor quality test so there could be loss of false negatives and that means that people could get a false sense of security that they think that negative then they go out and theyre actually not to be positive the next day could be spreading the virus all over the place thinking the negative and as well as not people that assent to nazi would still need to self isolate as well even if they tested negative and then of course they can be false positives one or 2 percent false positives quite easily could even be 3 percent false positives and even if its only one percent false positives that is 660000. 00 people a week who would have to isolate who are testing befalls politics and their family that means about one and a half 1000000 people so if isolating that week just on false positives and it was 2 percent it could be twice that many its a very very impractical idea yeah and you know you say this depends on technology that doesnt exist and weve heard that before from Boris Johnson in reference to reg sit in health to deal with the border between Northern Ireland in the republic of ireland so this is a recurring theme in this government let me ask you about the number of people in the u. K. Who are currently being tested help many are being tested and how is the Contact Tracing how is that going in the country. The official capacity for testing at the moment is about 350000. 00 tests per day hoping to round not just about half a 1000000 test by next month in practice on a good day were get