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A standstill but millions continue to flee conflicts persecution and discrimination will be speaking with the u. N. High commissioner for refugees. Im sara kelly welcome to the program a new leaders are holding a Video Conference at this hour on a Financial Plan to help the bloc emerge intact from the worst economic crisis and its history the Virtual Summit is the 1st step in what is expected to be a difficult negotiation they are discussing an unprecedented 750000000000. 00 euro carona recovery front leaders will meet face to face next month for the 1st time since the Coronavirus Crisis began in february. And lets head live now to brussels where. This is following the talks for us and there are certainly big political fault lines in these negotiations so where are those lines drawn. Absolutely sara leaders speaking kluge through their t. V. Screens now as this Virtual Meeting has started and you have a number of counties that have formed ever since the german chancellor and the french president stepped forward and said mutual debt is an option its a must if you want it for this Recovery Fund and now they support this idea of handing out grounds rather than loans since you have mentioned on the other side you have the frugal for countries in the north of europe predominantly austria sweden denmark the netherlands who say look rather hand out no less than grounds and also lets cook look very closely at the Strings Attached when we give that money away and then there are all sorts of issues about conditionality who gets how much and what and that is where you have a number of Eastern European countries who have to have made their claims of what money they would like to see so many challenges and in fact im gay arc our colleague Richard Walker has been having a closer look at some of those so we just have a quick look at what richard prepared and then well get your reaction there after. Corona pandemic is just a Health Crisis for europe has had a massive impact on Economy Today just like the virus itself the economic and social aftereffects hitting some countries harder than others European Union things easily greece and spain will suffer the most so in the last video meeting you members agreed to set up a special Recovery Fund to kick start the economy with the money borrowed centrally on the Financial Markets thats being seen as a big step for europe but there are still a lot of details to work out and some of them are huge and very very complicated so weve broken them down for you into 4 main things 1st of all size how big should the fund be the numbers in play range from 502750 1000000000 euros next. Fairness which countries should get funding and how much and should it be given out as grants loads that have to be paid back. Then focus what should the money be spent on the e. U. Would like to see lots of Green Digital vestment but there are some questions about how quickly such projects can get off the ground. And finally how should the fund be paid back to lenders by when and by whom with so much to discuss everyones warning that its going to be a while before they can find agreement but the pressure is on to prove that europe can stick together when the going gets tough. The pressure certainly on will they find a compromise georg oh look there i think richard made a really important point here is how the money should be paid back and that is where a lot of state leaders have different ideas spiritual tax be it an environmental tax how that money should be brought back into through the pockets of the European Commission also a conditionality is another tricky issue and of course the issue of what other criteria for the funding should countries that have overspent for years and currently italy and spain are the ones that really receive the biggest chunk of money from the Recovery Fund who should they be really be rewarded for not seeing through enough structural change that is what critics of the Current Commission proposal say or should we rather focus on the actual damage that corona the grown up and demick has done tricolor me so a lot of questions on the table or overall there is agreement that solidarity is important and that this crisis will need requires an adequate answer and as e. U. Leaders discuss as as we mentioned theyre discussing this right now theyre doing so virtually to talk with us a little bit about you know how big a factor that could potentially be because usually theyd be doing this up close in person. Well i was surprised at 1st that we already had a an all nighter where which which is that this is the term we call when the summit goes through all night through because the meetings were interrupted all the time all over ill i would say we have reached the limits of what you can achieve with a Virtual Conference a deal like this takes close personal contacts it takes leaders to get up from the table walk over to a colleague have a bilateral meeting on the sidelines of a summit the personal contact is what it takes for this recovery from to get over the line i would say. Correspondent charismatics with a view from brussels thank you. And now were going to highlight the case of italy because that country was already facing a potential recession before it was hit by the coronavirus and became europes 1st epicenter of the crisis roman posed a Strict Lockdown for almost 3 months nonessential businesses had to close supply chains were interrupted a business is now resuming. No car can run without these parts here an m. T. A. In northern italy components a made for comic has across the world including b. M. W. In germany and tata in india thats like oh no money if i can t. Was worried about the operation after the coronavirus began hitting the region hard in march the supply chain is something perfect it has to work day by day however by howard and. Now our customers cannot to find the same product we supply them from another supplier. After a brief interruption the machines are now back up and running and most workers have returned to the plant that is not all back to normal yet sales are down by 50 percent. Filippo better his company was also hit by the crisis hes now back in his showroom in maida the furniture maker got lucky 2 decades ago his company was already Marketing Online during the corona crisis it went even further using video calls to advise customers during lockdown. It was. A test a very heart of terrorists and we had the opportunity to shore where people were in a war costume of the 3 or we were able to resist and give a rip right to do so very very bad situation for everyone in this country so beto Going Digital has proven to be the solution to get through the crisis. Their primary a sees them ease able to survive we have many interpreting our snarl. Looking for new products new market new business models. But despite the opportunities italy was on the brink of recession even before the coronavirus struck now the economy is facing a slump of at least 8 percent money a 5. 00 k. T. Says m. T. A. Has put the Lessons Learned from the corona crisis into practice theyve also prepared for a possible 2nd wave but for many businesses in italy another lockdown could mean the end. And lets bring you up to date now with more developments in the corona virus pandemic results of a study of sewage in italy suggests that the virus was president in milan and to reign back in december it could mean that the virus arrived in northern italy before china officially reported its 1st case india has recorded its highest 2nd one day spike in infections confirming more than 13000 new cases the country now has the 4th highest number of cases after the u. S. Brazil and russia and officials in germany say that a Contact Tracing app has now been downloaded by 9600000 people just over 11 percent of the population the app was launched this week on a voluntary basis. Youre watching news still to come on the program the coronavirus imposes a potential humanitarian crisis for an ever growing number of displaced people we will be speaking with the u. N. High commissioner for refugees. But 1st for chaos at wire car the c. E. O. Of the German Electronics Payment Company marcus braun has resigned with immediate effect his resignation coming after the firm revealed that auditors could find 1900000000 euros in cash why or card faces a deadline for the release of its 29000 results today the Company Stocks have been in a freefall this week earlier this month the german prosecutor searched the dax listed firms offices as part of an investigation into market manipulation for going to italy bartz who is the floor of the Frankfurt Stock Exchange so only i mean we have this now major resignation and the stock really taking a beating and thats to put it lightly thats right its about 80 percent at the moment 7570 percent lower than it was before the 1st shocking news the it was not going to be any formal results and that there was this big hole in the Balance Sheet came yesterday morning a disaster for shareholders and markets braun resigning its only a matter of consequence thats one problem down if you will but many more to go theres a new guy james frees an american now jumping in coming completely from the outside and offering at least a chance of lets say starting to restore the reputation with someone with someone fresh and perhaps also getting some more shareholders on board if they want to risk a new management but i mean this is been such a dramatic fall for this company will leave too little too late here. Yeah i dont think itll be enough i mean the company has such a big problem with the financial hole that it has in the Balance Sheet it has to explain that and if it doesnt have the auditor signing off on its 29000. 00 results so it has about 2000000000. 00 euros in loans that will be recalled possibly at the end of the month i talked to an analyst and i asked him you know will it survive and he said if it doesnt survive the technology can survive and what the marketplace position of the company is because it could be a takeover kind of good so cheap you know what the stock market price that is thats maybe a bright side for their Technology Question is this the German Government want another German Company with technology thats such a successful market to go for and so far were hearing no comment on this from the form from the German Government as i would imagine it would be at least parts joining us from the Frankfurt Stock Exchange thank you. The 19 has been able to cause the entire world to grind to a halt but it has not been able to stop wars conflicts violence or discrimination those are the words of the head of the United Nations High Commission for refugees he was highlighting concerns for millions of displaced people whose plight has been compounded by the Global Pandemic we will speak with the u. N. High commissioner in just a few moments but 1st this report. Without a home to return to 80000000 people around the world are living in forced displacement. Escaping the war in syria the war in yemen persecution in myanmar starvation in venezuela around one percent of the worlds population is seeking refuge but the outbreak of cove in 1000. 00 has closed borders in europe and in africa making it harder to flee. And the supply chain for aid has been crippled by the economic downturn. Refugee camps around the world are bracing for the possibility of a corona Virus Outbreak like in the kakuma camp in kenya. Who were able to corona virus gets in the kakuma refugee camp and all of us will perish there is no space to isolate we live in one enclosure we cannot do social distancing here at all if the disease comes to cooma we will all die. In europe the destination of many Syrian Refugees attention has turned toward saving the economy from the effects of the pandemic the search for a solution to the refugee crisis has once again been sidelined. And we are joined now by felipe agron day United Nations High Commissioner for refugees welcome to the program and thank you for joining us thank you very much and good afternoon. Mr gandhi we have heard it including in that report many warnings about a potential humanitarian disaster if coronavirus hits refugee camps around the world but instead so far we have seen some of the most dramatic cases in major metropolitan areas how big of a threat is the coronavirus posing to refugees right now in your assessment. The fact that depends on the country in which they are there are countries in which we have many rights and thats lucky no merica for example where of course refugees are exposed to from the Health Perspective as much as nationals and others we have seen less of an outbreak. In africa for example which is a big theater for refugee movements so its really very beryls but what we have seen almost everywhere is even very catastrophic impact on the economic side refugees displaced people live off very fragile incomes daily wages the informal economy all of which disappears in situations of lockdown soul theyre very much hits from that perspective indices where were really focusing very much right now ok so its not just the Health Threat but also the economic knock on effects on how about the pen demick how is a compounding challenges for your work for example the logistics of getting aid to the refugees who depend on help from the u. N. Absolutely you know if to give you an example and i heard youre very good report by the way i heard mention of that you know transporting protective equipment both for refugees but also for my own colleagues working on the front like they couldnt stop the old experience you cluster very difficult difficult to source this equipment to purchase and to transport because all the supply chain some broken down and movements you know humanitarian work is essentially being theyre being present and in c. Questions of lock down we have had to last for a lot of exceptions ive told governments please consider our colleagues just like you would consider their medical personnel they have to have freedom of movement to carry out their vital job what do you say to your a your colleagues onto those e. U. Policy makers because leaders are holding a major summit today asylum policy not a central topic of discussion as it was last year what do you think the e. U. Still needs to do in order to address the refugee crisis here in europe. Look i you know i ive been european myself i come from italy a country that has been severely hit i understand that the priority now is the head of the situation and the economic downturn but what im telling them is that if you keep postponing the vital discussion on asylum a migration if you dont consider seriously to proposals that the European Commission has put before all Member States this is just something that is possible we will have this problem again in 6 months bold slipping into a bit 3 men by the way weve seen it even during the peak of the undead nick and no solution because that is not even an agreement between states dont want to do with those that are these and if we dont make progress there we face further emergencies in europe in the future a call to action there on if there ever was one and i manage just like to ask you before we go because youve said before that the un that the world has weathered many crises but that this pandemic is of another magnitude altogether and id like to ask you how you see the potential for action Going Forward is there anything that gives you cause for hope. The pandemic has hopefully finally brought home to everybody this fundamental message that we live in a world in which many things are global whether we like it or not including challenges im not just talking about them and them because everybody understands that but what about Climate Change what about migration and refugees what about in security terrorism and if we dont Work Together we wont be able to overcome them dependent hes teaching us this lesson every day not that were learning very much but it is teaching us this lesson and i do hope that this starts filtering in and across to the leadership sendek we move away from this dangerous discourse me 1st we 1st my country 1st and lead truly a top rate filippo grant a United Nations High Commissioner for refugees thank you so much for your time this afternoon thank you very much. Officials in the South African city of cape town are bracing for infections to peak there at the end of june or the beginning of july the city has been especially hard hit by the virus with more than half of the countrys 83000 confirmed cases located in the western cape region well the deputy to south africa correspondent adrienne creates reports now from cape town. The Cape Town International Video Conference<\/a> at this hour on a Financial Plan<\/a> to help the bloc emerge intact from the worst economic crisis and its history the Virtual Summit<\/a> is the 1st step in what is expected to be a difficult negotiation they are discussing an unprecedented 750000000000. 00 euro carona recovery front leaders will meet face to face next month for the 1st time since the Coronavirus Crisis<\/a> began in february. And lets head live now to brussels where. This is following the talks for us and there are certainly big political fault lines in these negotiations so where are those lines drawn. Absolutely sara leaders speaking kluge through their t. V. Screens now as this Virtual Meeting<\/a> has started and you have a number of counties that have formed ever since the german chancellor and the french president stepped forward and said mutual debt is an option its a must if you want it for this Recovery Fund<\/a> and now they support this idea of handing out grounds rather than loans since you have mentioned on the other side you have the frugal for countries in the north of europe predominantly austria sweden denmark the netherlands who say look rather hand out no less than grounds and also lets cook look very closely at the Strings Attached<\/a> when we give that money away and then there are all sorts of issues about conditionality who gets how much and what and that is where you have a number of Eastern European<\/a> countries who have to have made their claims of what money they would like to see so many challenges and in fact im gay arc our colleague Richard Walker<\/a> has been having a closer look at some of those so we just have a quick look at what richard prepared and then well get your reaction there after. Corona pandemic is just a Health Crisis<\/a> for europe has had a massive impact on Economy Today<\/a> just like the virus itself the economic and social aftereffects hitting some countries harder than others European Union<\/a> things easily greece and spain will suffer the most so in the last video meeting you members agreed to set up a special Recovery Fund<\/a> to kick start the economy with the money borrowed centrally on the Financial Markets<\/a> thats being seen as a big step for europe but there are still a lot of details to work out and some of them are huge and very very complicated so weve broken them down for you into 4 main things 1st of all size how big should the fund be the numbers in play range from 502750 1000000000 euros next. Fairness which countries should get funding and how much and should it be given out as grants loads that have to be paid back. Then focus what should the money be spent on the e. U. Would like to see lots of Green Digital<\/a> vestment but there are some questions about how quickly such projects can get off the ground. And finally how should the fund be paid back to lenders by when and by whom with so much to discuss everyones warning that its going to be a while before they can find agreement but the pressure is on to prove that europe can stick together when the going gets tough. The pressure certainly on will they find a compromise georg oh look there i think richard made a really important point here is how the money should be paid back and that is where a lot of state leaders have different ideas spiritual tax be it an environmental tax how that money should be brought back into through the pockets of the European Commission<\/a> also a conditionality is another tricky issue and of course the issue of what other criteria for the funding should countries that have overspent for years and currently italy and spain are the ones that really receive the biggest chunk of money from the Recovery Fund<\/a> who should they be really be rewarded for not seeing through enough structural change that is what critics of the Current Commission<\/a> proposal say or should we rather focus on the actual damage that corona the grown up and demick has done tricolor me so a lot of questions on the table or overall there is agreement that solidarity is important and that this crisis will need requires an adequate answer and as e. U. Leaders discuss as as we mentioned theyre discussing this right now theyre doing so virtually to talk with us a little bit about you know how big a factor that could potentially be because usually theyd be doing this up close in person. Well i was surprised at 1st that we already had a an all nighter where which which is that this is the term we call when the summit goes through all night through because the meetings were interrupted all the time all over ill i would say we have reached the limits of what you can achieve with a Virtual Conference<\/a> a deal like this takes close personal contacts it takes leaders to get up from the table walk over to a colleague have a bilateral meeting on the sidelines of a summit the personal contact is what it takes for this recovery from to get over the line i would say. Correspondent charismatics with a view from brussels thank you. And now were going to highlight the case of italy because that country was already facing a potential recession before it was hit by the coronavirus and became europes 1st epicenter of the crisis roman posed a Strict Lockdown<\/a> for almost 3 months nonessential businesses had to close supply chains were interrupted a business is now resuming. No car can run without these parts here an m. T. A. In northern italy components a made for comic has across the world including b. M. W. In germany and tata in india thats like oh no money if i can t. Was worried about the operation after the coronavirus began hitting the region hard in march the supply chain is something perfect it has to work day by day however by howard and. Now our customers cannot to find the same product we supply them from another supplier. After a brief interruption the machines are now back up and running and most workers have returned to the plant that is not all back to normal yet sales are down by 50 percent. Filippo better his company was also hit by the crisis hes now back in his showroom in maida the furniture maker got lucky 2 decades ago his company was already Marketing Online<\/a> during the corona crisis it went even further using video calls to advise customers during lockdown. It was. A test a very heart of terrorists and we had the opportunity to shore where people were in a war costume of the 3 or we were able to resist and give a rip right to do so very very bad situation for everyone in this country so beto Going Digital<\/a> has proven to be the solution to get through the crisis. Their primary a sees them ease able to survive we have many interpreting our snarl. Looking for new products new market new business models. But despite the opportunities italy was on the brink of recession even before the coronavirus struck now the economy is facing a slump of at least 8 percent money a 5. 00 k. T. Says m. T. A. Has put the Lessons Learned<\/a> from the corona crisis into practice theyve also prepared for a possible 2nd wave but for many businesses in italy another lockdown could mean the end. And lets bring you up to date now with more developments in the corona virus pandemic results of a study of sewage in italy suggests that the virus was president in milan and to reign back in december it could mean that the virus arrived in northern italy before china officially reported its 1st case india has recorded its highest 2nd one day spike in infections confirming more than 13000 new cases the country now has the 4th highest number of cases after the u. S. Brazil and russia and officials in germany say that a Contact Tracing<\/a> app has now been downloaded by 9600000 people just over 11 percent of the population the app was launched this week on a voluntary basis. Youre watching news still to come on the program the coronavirus imposes a potential humanitarian crisis for an ever growing number of displaced people we will be speaking with the u. N. High commissioner for refugees. But 1st for chaos at wire car the c. E. O. Of the German Electronics<\/a> Payment Company<\/a> marcus braun has resigned with immediate effect his resignation coming after the firm revealed that auditors could find 1900000000 euros in cash why or card faces a deadline for the release of its 29000 results today the Company Stocks<\/a> have been in a freefall this week earlier this month the german prosecutor searched the dax listed firms offices as part of an investigation into market manipulation for going to italy bartz who is the floor of the Frankfurt Stock Exchange<\/a> so only i mean we have this now major resignation and the stock really taking a beating and thats to put it lightly thats right its about 80 percent at the moment 7570 percent lower than it was before the 1st shocking news the it was not going to be any formal results and that there was this big hole in the Balance Sheet<\/a> came yesterday morning a disaster for shareholders and markets braun resigning its only a matter of consequence thats one problem down if you will but many more to go theres a new guy james frees an american now jumping in coming completely from the outside and offering at least a chance of lets say starting to restore the reputation with someone with someone fresh and perhaps also getting some more shareholders on board if they want to risk a new management but i mean this is been such a dramatic fall for this company will leave too little too late here. Yeah i dont think itll be enough i mean the company has such a big problem with the financial hole that it has in the Balance Sheet<\/a> it has to explain that and if it doesnt have the auditor signing off on its 29000. 00 results so it has about 2000000000. 00 euros in loans that will be recalled possibly at the end of the month i talked to an analyst and i asked him you know will it survive and he said if it doesnt survive the technology can survive and what the marketplace position of the company is because it could be a takeover kind of good so cheap you know what the stock market price that is thats maybe a bright side for their Technology Question<\/a> is this the German Government<\/a> want another German Company<\/a> with technology thats such a successful market to go for and so far were hearing no comment on this from the form from the German Government<\/a> as i would imagine it would be at least parts joining us from the Frankfurt Stock Exchange<\/a> thank you. The 19 has been able to cause the entire world to grind to a halt but it has not been able to stop wars conflicts violence or discrimination those are the words of the head of the United Nations<\/a> High Commission<\/a> for refugees he was highlighting concerns for millions of displaced people whose plight has been compounded by the Global Pandemic<\/a> we will speak with the u. N. High commissioner in just a few moments but 1st this report. Without a home to return to 80000000 people around the world are living in forced displacement. Escaping the war in syria the war in yemen persecution in myanmar starvation in venezuela around one percent of the worlds population is seeking refuge but the outbreak of cove in 1000. 00 has closed borders in europe and in africa making it harder to flee. And the supply chain for aid has been crippled by the economic downturn. Refugee camps around the world are bracing for the possibility of a corona Virus Outbreak<\/a> like in the kakuma camp in kenya. Who were able to corona virus gets in the kakuma refugee camp and all of us will perish there is no space to isolate we live in one enclosure we cannot do social distancing here at all if the disease comes to cooma we will all die. In europe the destination of many Syrian Refugees<\/a> attention has turned toward saving the economy from the effects of the pandemic the search for a solution to the refugee crisis has once again been sidelined. And we are joined now by felipe agron day United Nations<\/a> High Commission<\/a>er for refugees welcome to the program and thank you for joining us thank you very much and good afternoon. Mr gandhi we have heard it including in that report many warnings about a potential humanitarian disaster if coronavirus hits refugee camps around the world but instead so far we have seen some of the most dramatic cases in major metropolitan areas how big of a threat is the coronavirus posing to refugees right now in your assessment. The fact that depends on the country in which they are there are countries in which we have many rights and thats lucky no merica for example where of course refugees are exposed to from the Health Perspective<\/a> as much as nationals and others we have seen less of an outbreak. In africa for example which is a big theater for refugee movements so its really very beryls but what we have seen almost everywhere is even very catastrophic impact on the economic side refugees displaced people live off very fragile incomes daily wages the informal economy all of which disappears in situations of lockdown soul theyre very much hits from that perspective indices where were really focusing very much right now ok so its not just the Health Threat<\/a> but also the economic knock on effects on how about the pen demick how is a compounding challenges for your work for example the logistics of getting aid to the refugees who depend on help from the u. N. Absolutely you know if to give you an example and i heard youre very good report by the way i heard mention of that you know transporting protective equipment both for refugees but also for my own colleagues working on the front like they couldnt stop the old experience you cluster very difficult difficult to source this equipment to purchase and to transport because all the supply chain some broken down and movements you know humanitarian work is essentially being theyre being present and in c. Questions of lock down we have had to last for a lot of exceptions ive told governments please consider our colleagues just like you would consider their medical personnel they have to have freedom of movement to carry out their vital job what do you say to your a your colleagues onto those e. U. Policy makers because leaders are holding a major summit today asylum policy not a central topic of discussion as it was last year what do you think the e. U. Still needs to do in order to address the refugee crisis here in europe. Look i you know i ive been european myself i come from italy a country that has been severely hit i understand that the priority now is the head of the situation and the economic downturn but what im telling them is that if you keep postponing the vital discussion on asylum a migration if you dont consider seriously to proposals that the European Commission<\/a> has put before all Member States<\/a> this is just something that is possible we will have this problem again in 6 months bold slipping into a bit 3 men by the way weve seen it even during the peak of the undead nick and no solution because that is not even an agreement between states dont want to do with those that are these and if we dont make progress there we face further emergencies in europe in the future a call to action there on if there ever was one and i manage just like to ask you before we go because youve said before that the un that the world has weathered many crises but that this pandemic is of another magnitude altogether and id like to ask you how you see the potential for action Going Forward<\/a> is there anything that gives you cause for hope. The pandemic has hopefully finally brought home to everybody this fundamental message that we live in a world in which many things are global whether we like it or not including challenges im not just talking about them and them because everybody understands that but what about Climate Change<\/a> what about migration and refugees what about in security terrorism and if we dont Work Together<\/a> we wont be able to overcome them dependent hes teaching us this lesson every day not that were learning very much but it is teaching us this lesson and i do hope that this starts filtering in and across to the leadership sendek we move away from this dangerous discourse me 1st we 1st my country 1st and lead truly a top rate filippo grant a United Nations<\/a> High Commission<\/a>er for refugees thank you so much for your time this afternoon thank you very much. Officials in the South African<\/a> city of cape town are bracing for infections to peak there at the end of june or the beginning of july the city has been especially hard hit by the virus with more than half of the countrys 83000 confirmed cases located in the western cape region well the deputy to south africa correspondent adrienne creates reports now from cape town. The Cape Town International<\/a> Convention Center<\/a> is now a Field Hospital<\/a> with around 1000. 00 beds cape town the center of the coronavirus pandemic in south africa is preparing for the worst and additional 5000. 00 jobs for nurses and doctors have been advertised for cape town and the surrounding area fire or just was done prize and his team have massively increased testing one 3rd of those tested here have been infected with the virus and there arent enough testing kits available. Probably even see. One problem is clearly the International Supply<\/a> situation thats something we really notice in the laboratory that were ultimately at the back of the line when it comes to supply it its all produced internationally im not despondent but i must admit there are some very bad weeks ahead of us triple volatiles to push the Health Sector<\/a> could be overloaded as early as next month city councillors aides by the dean is normally responsible for health care now hes also overseeing preparation work in local graveyards this huge area has been cleared for victims of covert 92000 people will be buried in this cemetery alone in the coming weeks. With our part and its the motion and projections that we have modeled at the moment we will see about 7000 deaths all the way up 210000 deaths being projected in the city we are likely to use in the next few weeks the same amount of graves that have been since the site for use in one year only a few mourners are allowed to attend funerals the ceremony itself is limited to 30 minutes maximum for deaths due to coronavirus it is actually a very scary thought that in a few weeks hundreds of people will be buried here but with the way the pandemic unfolds this is going to be the reality and joining me now from the city of durban is professor Salim Abdul Karim<\/a> a prominent epidemiologist who is leading south africas covert 19 Advisory Team<\/a> thank you so much for taking the time to join us this afternoon. Its a great pleasure now we just heard a little bit more about south africa easing lockdown restrictions even as the coronavirus cases are starting to rise rapidly how whiskey is that well because africa acted very early we imposed restrictions and the lock down we had only 402. 00 cases we are now in week 40 in off the lockdown and its no longer sustainable for us to continue along this path and so we having to make the very difficult decision of easing the destruction so that people can start accessing health care accessing food and so on now while we institute now a prevention measures that individuals will need to take up such as social distancing and washing and so on why do you think so many of the countries case is more than half of the total have been concentrated in capetown specifically. Well when we look at the beginning ology of the way in which the virus has spread in the western cape it actually started spreading at the tail end of our very Strict Lockdown<\/a> and it started spreading in those. Supermarkets and Grocery Stores<\/a> that have to operate at the time and so it was the start getting infected passing it on to the customers and so what happened as a result is that before we actually even knew there was an outbreak in these Grocery Stores<\/a> it had already spread into the community so we were always playing catch up in the western cape trying to find pieces and stop the transmission to looking at Contact Tracing<\/a> and isolation and it leads to stage a pretty pretty where all our efforts were actually now just trying to get to a point of some level of containment and in fact we have slowed transmission in the western cape but thats slowing doesnt stop the continue or lauries a new case size as we see there and we heard some so much about you know about efforts to get the transmission of the virus to slow how important testing is in all of that we saw in our report one of the scientists saying that that he feels that south africa and im quoting here it is at the back of the line when it comes to the supply of test kits do you agree and why do you think that. This is really most frustrating for all of us the country is now doing somewhere between 25. 30 tests per day so its not made we doing you know only a handful were doing a lot of tests but our need is much much greater that we really would like to be able to do you know twice or thrice that and we have the capacity that capacity to do you know 70010. 00. Its may 2000 tests a day we have the capability because that capability was booked you know order to do testing for hiv and also for tb so because we have the capacity we have the sheens and everything we just cant get hold of the kids the fact of the supply is just not able to supply the numbers we need is a real problem because its not a money issue its just an international supplies through a very very challenging situation and we appreciate you joining us here on the program taking the time to tell us on how you are coping with the professor Salim Abdul Karim<\/a> chair of south africa has covered 1000 Advisory Committee<\/a> we appreciate and. 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