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G. W. Lebannon the only country in the modern middle east that was long dominated by christians today muslims are in the majority its a society that has repeatedly been under threat. In the us was that there have always been tensions between the different religious communities and to nominations in various ethnic groups in lebanon. Supposed in financed by iran the Shiite Hezbollah Party of god has had a huge impact on the political fabric of lebannon. As far as critics would say yes so this does the stabilize the region hezbollah supporters would say that as well as military strength is an asset for love money because that keeps israel away. In the civil war in syria the hezbollah militia defended the assad regime now theyre back and theyve been on in stronger shape than ever. The more there are fighting to defend is the model of bashar assad which this is its a shame. But just to watch extent dance has ability to term in the course of politics in lebanon. Beirut the lebanese capital still bears the scars of a civil war that for more than 15 years crippled the city and the country as a whole see it sad was among those who fought back then he was just 16 years old when he 1st held the weapon in his hands. The civil war erupted in 1975 like virtually the entire country favorite became a battlefield. The war initially saw christian militias fighting against the Palestinian Liberation Organization p. L. O. Which was threatening to take control of beirut. The hostilities then escalated into a broader conflict between christians and arab nationalists finally the israelis invaded and occupied southern lebanon in order to expel the p. L. O. From the country it was at this time that hezbollah was formed. The war claim tens of thousands of lives and left the country devastated. The bad thing theos was supposed to do where might. They know but they dont speak. Thats why every 1520 something someplace. To go. They know. How to destroy the buildings and they dont make this Morning House where they go they dont know anything about life except fighting. Here in the middle of beirut in the no mans land between muslim and christian districts ziad sahaba and his former comrades in arms and meeting up in a cafe they want to break the silence surrounding events in the civil war there are lessons to be learned that say also including the conflicts with israel the last of which again shocked the country in 2006 ziad screw colds meetings where all participants can talk about their wartime experiences. With out to you. But if i dont think about a friend of mine was driving his car when a shell exploded behind him if. He looked in his mirror and saw a woman collapse he drove back to help her it was then that a 2nd shell exploded and killed him she. Just doesnt get the. Edge of. A growing number of people are eager to talk about how it feels to be at the mercy of tanks and missiles. They also reflect on their own deeds. But. Where the hell are you do you use the guns to solve our problems is the biggest mistake that she did and that may in fact or why we. Do this is us and no it was a 7 or itself. Actually it was us who believe that by violent we can change the situation. What we did we destroy our cancer. Among the biggest losers of the civil war were Catholic Christians the maronites and 943. 00 france had relinquished its mandate power over 11 on and the country became independent for years and decades afterwards the maronites held sway 11 on muslims druse Orthodox Christians and all other religious minorities have to accept the political and economic supremacy of the maronite christians defeated in the civil war had far reaching consequences from various groups as middle east Analyst Daniel gallo explains even on board of. Lebanon was created in order to guarantee a christian majority its an absolute exception in the history of the middle east a state was created with the help of the west and also with the help of the league of nations in which christians were in the majority and the word us able to determine Political Developments in the country and before the lebanese civil war the christians had a joint guaranteed privileges including a majority in parliament after the war and through the agreements that were signed in its wake this change and not today the christians no longer have those privileges. After the civil war the cards will reshuffle the formal warring parties agreed to a strict system of proportional representation that at the same time took into account the needs and interests of the Muslim Population each religious minority was granted posts and privileges that they have defended right through to the present as a result however this Multicultural Society has been gradually disintegrating into its separate parts. Over a 1000000 predominantly muslim refugees from syria a further upset. Team social balance politically and economically lebanon is in a deep crisis that is further dividing the country. A division of manifested in the road blocks which are found not only throughout irish but also the entire country some of them date back to the civil war and the syrian occupation which lasted until 2005. The headquarters of the could tie apache resembles a fortress. The party of the maronite christians formerly known as the phalange is led by sami gemayel a cylon of one of lebanons most predominant political dynasties his uncle and brother were both assassinated nevertheless gemayel believes in lebanese democracy. We have a history of 80 years of democracy the only maybe country in the region where you have expresident living in peace in their own country you have every 4 years in the election you have. Governments are being formed even if it takes time even if its difficult to do it every time but at least you are doing it and its a democracy process and this is a model that we. That you are willing to defend. But the political system in lebanon is now under greater threat than ever before the shiite hezbollah the party of god is growing in strength many of its supporters despise the lebanese state. And the last friday of the fasting month of ramadan has been a celebrate could see or to do some day which goes back to the time if the arraigning later Ayatollah Khomeini an event that centers on the dome of the rock interest. Hezbollah calls itself the party of resistance resistance to its own allegedly powerless state and resistance to israel. Oh i learned that that resistance has proved successful but by hezbollah not the state this Resistance Movement emerged the moment it became clear that the state was powerless to do anything. While you were state allowed us in the south of the country to be humiliated by the occupying israelis on a daily basis and the Resistance Movement consists of all of these people here who can now. Stay as an International Day not just for us but for every country and with gods help in the near future we will put an end to israels existence as long. As bill is grassroots space is made up of many pora shiites who constitute roughly one quarter of the population in lebanon on the general secretary of hezbollah. Is their idol. For decades hes been the head of the party and the armed militia its been years since nasr allah has appeared in public to the risk of assassination the list of enemies is long israel regards him as a primary terrorist target this evening his supporters only get to see him on a big screen he said to a video message from a hiding place in the mountains. We have precision missiles capable of hitting all essential targets in the zionist entity. Today on this 40th anniversary of jerusalem day let me state once again and tell the whole world. That we have perception missiles in lebanon on and in sufficient numbers to change the entire region once and for all. That carried and everybody here i know was i know we will follow him chant the crowd the senator. Let me tell the world that if the americans continue with their current policy we will build a factory in lebanon for precision missiles. No Surveillance Video appearances a closely monitored by governments in many other countries because hezbollah does not make empty threats it has a track record of carrying out attacks on the us france and in particular israel hezbollah has been declared a terrorist organization by the us and israel the European Union gives that designation only to its military wing. Over the years hezbollah has mounted numerous attacks on northern israel near the border with lebanon. Soldiers targeting and killing civilians with missiles and using suicide bombers. Israelis abroad have also been the victims of terrorist attacks attributed to hezbollah a bombing in bulgaria and 2012 claimed the lives of 5 israeli tourists and their bus driver. Works at the institute for National Security studies in tel aviv. Definitely the most Dangerous Organisation but its not only organisation izabella is a Political Party its a social network its a religious party and its also an army its a very well equipped. Army advanced army with sophisticated weaponry which were provided by the iranians and the syrians so were not talking only about an organization. Hezbollah was formed in the 1980s in the bekaa plain on the border with syria today it also controls part by route in the south of the country. During the civil war the hezbollah militia force against israel offered off on the south of the country faced with a guerrilla war of attrition the israeli army eventually pulled out of lebanon in 2000 has claimed victory. Nicholas blanford is a british journalist at the time he was writing for lebanese daily newspaper is. If you go back to the 992 years back then israel was occupying a strip of South Lebanon and hezbollah was engaged in a daily Resistance Campaign fighting israel is back then there was a general consensus within lebanon to support hezbollah to support hezbollah as resistance activities including from those that view has followed with some distrust. And theres alarmist organization with links to iran but the resistance of credentials helps hezbollah game popularity across the country. Many towns in southern lebanon about 100 kilometers from beirut every year tens of thousands of people flock to the open a museum here. Is a kind of hezbollah pilgrimage site celebrating the fight against israel it was opened in 20. 10 on the 10th anniversary of israels withdrawal from lebanon on it boasts an array of hezbollah war trophies including captured tanks and artillery guns. Yet hezbollah was originally founded to defend the shiites against theyve been dominant muslim rivals the sunnis iran provided help in the form of funding and expertise but then the israelis invaded and occupied the south of the country. Musa finance has worked as a tourist guide ever since the Museum Opened he says its his wife offering resistance the museum to begin with just to cherish the memory of the martyrs that they gave their lives to for this country from the invaders. Later used to be a refuge and base for hezbollah fighters it was here that they dug themselves into the mountains and waged to guerrilla war which hezbollah turned into a success story. How the media and the world are controlled by the zionist all this so. Why not teach the new generation what the resistance all about. This is our war just to give these people our side of the story. Has been his version of history is that Israel Occupied southern lebanon and that hezbollah put up a systems into the israelis withdrew and in fact hezbollah also mounted repeated attacks on its ocho enemy after that time. In 2006 hezbollah fired missiles at northern israel and in a cross border right abducted 2 israeli soldiers. Israel hit back launching a Ground Invasion and a series of air rights reaching his followers by roache. More than 2000 people were killed most of them lebanese. The war also cemented has been a status as being one of israels principal enemies. Israel is faced with and is challenge by an army that is using those guerrilla tactics thats why i call it an army of thought. And it is very well trained very well equipped. With my intentions only jeopardize the stability of the region and it may create a war between israel and lebanon on the state of lebanon on which is by law has basically in the last couple of years israel has declared that hezbollah is the greatest threat facing israel so were not talking about a conflict not talking about syria or even iran but are nonstate organizations such as bala theres now are perceived as the greatest threats was from. United nations troops had been stationed in southern lebanon since 1978 their mandate to guarantee peace and security in the contested region but it proved an Impossible Task for a un force that was fun to small. In a beautiful state after the civil war and controlled by different religious groups the Lebanese Army existed in 9 only when 6 of its peacekeepers were killed in the war of 2006 the United Nations changed its policy. Since 2006 the un forces have had what is known as a robust mandate which allows the use of force if necessary since then there have been only rare and confrontations at the border both sides are upholding the 6 fire agreement to this day however a state of war still exists between israel and lebanon there are no diplomatic relations between the 2 countries. And the most serious crisis since the last war erupted at the end of 28 saying un troops have the job of securing the blue line the demarcation line between the 2 countries the israeli army discovered tunnels leading into israel evidently dark by hezbollah to render them a new. The israelis poured concrete into the tunnels watching events from the lebanese side of the blue line a number of young men with hezbollah flags the militia has continued to store weapons in the area despite a bad imposed 3 un resolution. Lebanon has never recognized the state of israel there is no mutually accepted border between israel and lebanon on the blueline serves as a temporary solution. A number unresolved issue is who the sheba farms belong to. An expired israel but lebanon lays claim to them exits to the hezbollah tunnels were discovered in the 2 that inside israel. Tell of it 150 kilometers south of the border with lebanon is israels biggest city. Land it now lies within the range of hezbollah missiles one of the factors behind the Israel Defense forces locating their center of operations deep underground beneath their headquarters. Is around slender size means that a short reaction time to attacks from outside is deemed vital to its survival its army closely monitors the activities of hezbollah its analyses show that hezbollah has grown in strength partly through the experience it has gained through the war in neighboring syria. The israelis see hezbollah in a wider strategic context in their eyes the Shiite Militia is 1st and foremost a proxy for the implementation of a rainy and plans. In the opinion of numerous. Service iran is trying to establish a land bridge from its own territory to the mediterranean with the aim of projecting an extended zone of influence including hezbollah the regime into iran now has close allies reaching from iraq and syria through to lebanon and. We see iranian attempts to create a lamb corridor from iran through about a 1000 kilometers more or less from iran all the way to lebanon through iraq and syria when we look at events in syria we care less about if the dictator or ask bob bashara regains control over the country are not what were interested in is whether the iranians will be able to make this into yet another iranian. Outpost military outpost against israel and we have said very clearly that we have no intentions to allow the iranians to do so. In recent years the israelis have launched hundreds of attacks on suspected to rein in targets in syria supplies destined for hezbollah have also been bombed in a war that has yet to be declared. Its a shura or day of remembrance in by road on this one of the most sacred sites on the shiite calendar the veterans of the hezbollah militia on it. This man is said to have survived an unsuccessful attack on the israelis he says he would fight again. Even in his state he claims it has below are planning an attack on television for his revenge for his friend bombs dropped on by rage he would not hesitate to follow the call. That many of these men fought in syria. Together with the brainy and forces they have helped to keep syrian dictator Bashar Al Assad and his regime in power its estimated that in the process hezbollah lost more than 1500 combatants. As far as power center is located in south beirut the dahiya as the suburbs are 9 has a mainly shiite population here the selfstyled party of god has established what it calls a marshall cemetery. This is the last resting place of men who lost their lives in the wars against israel or in syria they include the son of hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah. Many relatives pay regular visits to the cemetery which lies close to downtown beirut. Having a fallen soldier a socalled martha in the family is seen as a distinction. And i am the head that yes i have family here 2 brothers and then uncle 3 martyrs he walk in every mother even if she doesnt have any marjories must give her children encouragement and educate them to this and that is why as you know because we are fighting for our land and our honor and god willing we will set ourselves free because we refuse to live without dignity it is a matter of either dignity or marja. Yell cut on the. Hezbollah encourages the veneration of those the calls martyrs from an early age members of the mahdi Scouts Organization are prepared for war when they are just 8 years old they wear headbands bearing the words Actual Service over Hussein Ali Hussein even ali is the 2nd most important imaam revered by shiites the mahdi scouts are intended to fight against the enemies of the hezbollah in his name this song mourns the passing of his son who is considered a match up hes a role model for the mahdi scouts. Thought it was the guy. I have now because. Of the war and the families of those who have died in combat for hezbollah a given financial and Material Support hezbollah also run schools and hospitals and has become an important social institution in lebanon but how is the organization financed well the iranians voice been the main bankroller of hezbollah but hezbollah years ago diversified its portfolio and they have all kinds of Revenue Streams coming directly into the organization so a lot of it is true. Or donations from wealthy shia businessman who support hezbollah respect as follow the same applies on a smaller scale to hezbollah support base but they also have a whole array of Business Networks around the world some of them. Are just not but they will provide farms you know coming to to hezbollah as coffers. Hezbollah continues to grow in power and influence and is shifting the denominational power structure in favor of the shiites the sunnis who are largely better off economically fear losing political influence even though its traditionally a sunni who holds the most important things in the country back of Prime Minister. Saad hariri who resigned in october 29th tain had hoped to curb the power of hezbollah like his father rafik hariri seen with him here on the poster he had tried to unite the lebanese under sunni leadership to this end he was prepared to make concessions to hezbollah. The billionaire Building Contractor with lebanese saudi and french citizenship wanted to up hold the legacy of his father. Himself a former Prime Minister and assassinated in 2015. Most of that in the very was a beacon of hope so not only for lebanon and its National Agenda he was also a figure with whom the sunnis identified the man who brought the cosmopolitan sunni elites back to the country. And who also had given greater emphasis to the sunni identity of lebanon and for the. Saudi arabia selfappointed protector of the sudanese takes a critical view of attempts at reproach meant with the shiites feel he is the saudis side hariri. Exert more pressure on hezbollah if not only because of its closeness to iran the saudis likewise have their own strategic interests. In force the saudis were always eager to have a foot in the door to wield power in the going on. And theyve achieved this in diverse ways your investments your property and government bonds that they purchased the schools of. The saudis big problem was that hariri placed so much faith and had not managed to suppress the interests of other powers to the benefit of saudi arabia the 1st person country was my bill and im willing to take power away from hezbollah while on a state visit to the saudi capital riyadh november 2017 he surprisingly announced his resignation with a statement that completely contradicted his previous political line. Out of the. Us not going down because i cannot accept disappointing the lebanese people over the last few years and decades hezbollah with its arsenal has repeatedly presented us with a fait accompli. Barcas. That is sad or not. It claims that these weapons are for offering resister the. More but in fact they are being used against our brothers in syria yemen and even against lebanese. To this day its unclear whether hariri was forced to step down it was only when french president Emmanuel Mccraw intervened that he was allowed to leave saudi arabia once back in lebanon hariri rescinded his resignation political machinations that boost has been his position a few months later the Group Registered and in fact electoral victory in a government headed by hariri they were represented. With 2 cabinet posts for the 1st time. Because the party today is the only Opposition Party and there were no real refused to be part of the deal the managed to get hezbollah to control the country. And today we are fighting alongside with a lot of independent personalities and some groups from the Civil Society in order to form a large position to the to the way lebanon is being governed today. Has the representatives really grant interviews to western media. As a recourse that means talking to their allies like youre seen yup i am a shiite and longstanding member of parliament. He sees hezbollah as indispensable. As well as the woman is the seen by many people as a party that helped defeat isis that helped liberate the lebanese territories and with all the threats continuously for the israelis that they were lowballed liberal or could be a at least the balancing power. In the mid 990 s. Bear held a ministerial post he currently heads the Parliamentary Committee on Foreign Policy he puts up resistance whenever the United States or International Organizations like the world bank seen here meeting you have here trying to exert pressure on the lebanese government because of hezbollah. Washington has once again demanded that the government deprive has a lot of power. Something and then finds completely unrealistic. To do. Is below is represented in parliament with. Colleagues from spall and the same building there was other than in government and they have a. Presentation i mean the represent the chunk of people in the country so as lebanese i mean all the lebanese. Factions have stated i mean. Raising this issue in the negative way or asking us to put pressure here over who will lead to confrontation to a conflict within the country which is a difficult position for lebanon to go into law. When its facing so much challenges that will destroy the country completely. Hezbollah is also far too strong militarily to be driven out of lebanon on the militia is said to another 25000. 00 soldiers the party of god originally founded to represent the interests of the shiites in lebanon is now an established power factor throughout the middle east. As well as fighting syria as well as fighting it out as well as fighting in yemen as well as fighting the when it is involved in all the countries in the region and is dragging the ban on 2 problems lebannon didnt choose. Might have suffered serious losses with many of its fighters being killed in syria but it is now in a position to engage and take maneuvers. The war in syria has enabled it to develop far beyond the military capacity it had in the wars against israel and hezbollah is now a powerful army and not just a militia and a flock of the Army National army needs. To use rightly army is already preparing for a new war with hezbollah. This is footage of a maneuver conducted in the north of the country has been a reportedly has more than 120000 missiles at his disposal all of them potentially pointed at israel. I think its safe to say that lebanon will probably be turned into a car park in the next war but israel will be his like they havent been heard since 948 the missiles and weaponry at the disposal of hezbollah now will bring the entire country of israel to a standstill. There will be no civilian traffic you know civilian maritime traffic people will all be in the bunkers there will be no one going to schools universities work for the duration of the conflict so this is a very sobering picture for any Prime Minister in israel as it is indeed for for hezbollah we know what hizbullah is planning we know that they have precise weaponry that can hit with carried out a lot of explosive that are going to devastate our cities and to kill people in high numbers they retaliation must be and im telling it like marty even the point of view must be to stop with in any cause. So far the principle of to terror and has worked on both sides. No one wants a new conflict memories of the civil war a still vivid. Now the lebanese too are realizing how dangerous has been his political course could be for the entire country even though up to now they have accepted the organization as a legitimate defend against israel. Laurie hi tyrion is a popular blogger and activist she criticizes hezbollahs policy of sending its militia into conflicts elsewhere in the middle east she believes it increases the chances of war breaking out. You half as well though it is the Lebanese Hezbollah which defense lebannon. This is reality if and this is in. The center. There is as well are woods is the regional player and this is where the division comes. The fact that hezbollah has become a state within a state is perhaps only part of a wider problem faced by lebannon that of politics being defined by religion. Laurie hi tion organizers meetings for women who want to bridge the gulf between the 2 nominations. Here christians and muslims are sitting at the same table. Only in this way she says can the country progress in the office or apart from one or 2 politicians the lebanese people have no voice in parliament with a microphone in front of them of course everyone speaks in the name of the lebanese people but in reality no one represents us as politicians are only concerned with defending the entrance of their particular religious denomination and been harassed a lot of forms if you saw a little haydel but it has to be possible for people to live in this country with their own convictions and there are prospects for changing things but this can only happen if we challenge the political and sectarian regime we need a secular state which also respects the interests of Civil Society. Lebanon has experienced much violence and enjoyed many conflicts this could almost prove to be a strength but there also needs to be a radical break with the past. Tripoli the 2nd biggest city in lebanon is proof that the religious divisions and conflicts do not necessarily have to persist. Up until a few years ago crossing syria straight meant taking your life into your own hands because fighting between rival muslim factions was a daily occurrence the people shooting at each other were neighbors. Sunnis and alawite who used to belong to the same she a branch of islam a specialist sad used to be adversaries. From among the other. Now they are working together to repair their neighborhood and its power lines. These young men are under 30 years old. Many of them were still minus when they took up arms of a reconciliation project called march has brought them together for. Their good honestly i thought it was a terrorist. Says some mia an alawite about the man next to him last a devout sunni used to have nothing but contempt for the other whites. And. I say that has commanded me to attack anyone who attacks me even if he is my brother. Because the quran says that if anyone sins against you so you must sin against them. But that doesnt apply to him for what hes ok like all the other white guys from this district theyre really fine lads really good hearted and polite to them and they will theres talk about the much reconciliation project was launched by labor rudi from beirut shes. Vince that the religious conflicts are no facade. I honestly believe that the sectarian divides in our minds are here out of fear and simply out of fear because we are afraid that the other is going is out to get us or out eliminate us. And my ideas is is the solution is we need to talk to each other we need to spend time with each other and get to know its either so that this fear that comes from you know manipulation from the past from what youve been through you know get get this is because we know each other the problem is that we do not know each other and are afraid of each other. Up. Skepticism is understandable what works in tripoli might not have the same positive effect in the rest of the country hezbollah has fought hard to secure a position in which it is a decisive Political Economic and military factor. And as long as religious goals persist with the between christians sunnis or shiites they will continue to determine the political and economic structure of lebannon and the country will struggle to emerge from the ongoing crisis of fundamentalism become stronger and stronger. They sound in time sing but are a drain on Natural Resources to try. Cars made of african in the. Forests across the region are threatened the american guitar builder is taking responsibility for. Financing and winning reforestation. Cool africa. 30 minutes on d w. How to. Discover your concept discover with. 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