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Transcripts For DW Mugabe 20240713

Get real. Do this where i really. Truly say we. Came to power as a Freedom Fighter we had to war with ian smith i dont believe in regard to. The north into the stars and years we have tried betsy resistance in the past people got rocked up people got shot everyone stressed to their hopes and dreams for a new Zimbabwe Mugabe inspired a nation brutalized and tortured tens of thousands of people and one of his biggest legacy was that he would lead the country into Economic Disaster i think what that being destroyed everything that could have been just cried and said Democratic Society in zimbabwe. Could have been the next nelson mandela. After more than 50 years of colonial british rule rhodesia known today as zimbabwe was pushing for independence from britain the British Government was prepared to work towards these with the rhodesians but only on the basis of no independence before majority rule meaning britain would not recognise rhodesia as independence before a majority rule was implemented as opposed to rule by the white colonial minority unhappy with britains conditions and the rising black nationalist movement the ruling white settler minority voted in the 1st rhodesian born Prime Minister conservative rhodesian front leader Ian Smith Smith set rhodesia on a path to independence which is something we are going to do that and it is our intention to maintain reducer. That we all know. The 965 he proclaims the unilateral declaration of independence a move that was denounced by british Prime Minister Harold Wilson and the International Community. Mr wilsons answer to the declaration of independence has been do i draw the additional government under present through economic sanctions one of the most Ominous Development in the few days that the seed of this illegal action has been the progressive creation of a police state in the shape. Of. The black african majority now saw nothing for themselves in this white ruled rhodesia paving the way for conflict which would soon become open warfare it was insolence racist policies that started this. Which led to thousands of mostly blocks and dying in this war for liberation. People wash it up with the white minority government to be wild. Zimbabwe. And there wasnt one person. He represented a Brighter Future. He was seen as this fearless Freedom Fighter he managed to change the narrative and people in africa love him for that. Robert mugabe was born in 1924 in michaud no land in what was then the colony of Southern Rhodesia mugabe was a gifted boy and even trained as a teacher in his early teens. 4 years later a scholarship took him to south africa to complete further training it was here that mugabe became interested in politics attending political rallies. And he was influenced by gandhi teachings and his time at university in south africa the same universe to bed nelson mandela. Was turning point in his life. By 960 a yearning for freedom from white rule consumed mcgarvie so much that he quit teaching to devote himself full time to the cause. He aligned himself with the n. D. P. The National Democratic party led by joshua como in the fight against ian smith. Gabi spoke of african nationalism land and liberation and openly called for a guerilla war against the ruling elite in december 963. 00 he was arrested as an agitator he actually spent more than a decade as a political prisoner. Meanwhile some were growing frustrated with what they saw as a lack of action on the part of an komo and his party a new Political Party called zanu the Zimbabwe African National union was created and mugabe was appointed secretary general in absentia in there is only do. We need joint politics his popularity started to grow he was seen as the. A figurehead because of his Leadership Qualities and also because he was an orator you spoke very well he spoke very good english so he was able to explain whats in the blanks the bobbins really want to and he was seen as the liberation hero. Dictators sell themselves to the public as a man of the people who will solve their problems quickly and rapidly without all the other pesky rules that ox and other politicians and thats why people trust. Blacks made up 95 percent of rhodesia population and they now had Robert Mugabe officially fighting their cause. Thats. The snake under one. Of the questions. For mugabe there was only one way to deal with smith we are at war with the and smith. And the war must continue and. To tell the British Government and the. Before you surrendered. The fighting has proper continued. To combat in smiths despotic and racist policies mugabe formed an allegiance within komo together they set their Guerrilla Army on smiths Rhodesian Security forces escalating into what became known as the rhodesian bush war farms owned by whites were attacked while civil unrest erupted in towns and cities we have tried passive resistance in the past our people got locked up our people got shot. Various attempts were made by the british and americans to end the violence but talks ended in a stalemate smith refused to back down from his opposition to black majority rule there is some sign that the white traducing is willing to accept critics of an early vote to majority rule until that principle has been accepted but what would you change the British Government not to. Intend to take another initiative. And the photosphere United States system should be full support. Be given negotiation and underground a majority in the future i dont believe in the majority are. Not in the stars and here we havent come here to cause this to bring about this is far weve come here to determine whether we shall be free or not talks broke down and on the ground violent clashes became more frequent and widespread this is one of the latest atrocities in the guerrilla war it happened last month at a british run missionary on charlie in eastern ready 12 whites including missionaries their wives and children were dragged into a nearby field and murdered with the savagery of that was horrifying even by the standards of this brutal 6 year war the butcher it was widely assumed to be the work of the rulers belonging to Robert Mugabes son which is based across the border in mozambique. After 15 years of fighting the british attempted to bring an end to the violence once and for all on the 21st of december 1979 the lancaster house agreement was signed in london it stipulated the creation of a new country to be known as the republic of zimbabwe it was subject to 2 conditions firstly ceasefire would be declared secondly democratic elections would be held to form a new government. The black nationalist groups zanu and zafu who had been waging the increasing violent insurgency. Put forward candidates standing for who was just. And for zanu ally. We had. A. Lot of. People. Different expression the wishes. Mugabes party won the majority making him zimbabwes 1st Prime Minister. To. Do. That. To zimbabwe. Because of for the 1st time we had black majority rule in the country he came to power the moment of National Crisis and change when zimbabwe had attained its independence and people vested their hopes and dreams that he would create this new fresh zimbabwe that would deliver for the people he brought the whole. Nation that had suffered. Under. Its regime and he was a very charismatic leader. Mugabes rhetoric was exactly what the people of zimbabwe wanted to hear it mean ploy the struggle to achieve political independence now we must employ back political independence to achieve Economic Freedom most dictators inevitably are corrupt though they may initially try to act in the nations interest power always crops so in the case of he started off investing in education in health care in infrastructure everyone vested their hopes and dreams for a new zimbabwe and dictators exploited vulnerability so you have somebody like gabi who is. Its the end of colonialism and brings in a new form of government and absolutely transforms the system in a heartbeat. But it wasnt long before power and paranoia went to mccartneys head he was sacked accused of plotting to overthrow him removing homo was mugabes 1st step to one contested rule and dictatorship. Survival for any dictatorship finding out where the threats are and find those threats as quickly as possible. 980 zimbabwe was finally free from british and white rule thanks to the man hailed as a Freedom Fighter and man of the people Robert Mugabes. Gabriel. It was euphoria in the country independence. Finally. Free and people were free to do what they wanted and they really hoped and National News toward their promises. But while the black population were enjoying new opportunities cracks were already forming within the political sphere there is a lot of current between certain members of your party and his party. Are the people that we dont have. Existing. I spoke with hostility towards he. Invited him to join my government to do. The tensions myriad zimbabwes divided political allegiances. Just ruin comos. Lost the political battle in parliament against Robert Mugabes zanu faction but in his massive billy homeland and come over support was challenged and captured weapons showed that some followers of a coma went prepared to accept the on easy status quo. Oh my. To secure the loyalty of both his rivals and people mugabi focused his attention on building up the army. Life in the regular army will be quite different to that in the guerrilla units. About 25000 guerrillas have so far been formed into battalions the socalled super sausage machine is processing about 3000 men a month the training isnt comprehensive but merely the 1st stage right why oh why so i felt. At the top the 6 most senior positions in the new army are divided equally among the 3 factions. Who i wanted to project an image of strength and he did this by providing funding to the military he needed to keep the military happy to prevent them from staging a coup against but he also wanted to show to the world that zimbabwe was a strong country with a strong military. Be spared no expense. This large army has already put a strain on the economy there arent enough barracks for the men yet the government is already spending a 5th of its budget on defense. When the integration process is complete the new Zimbabwean Army will number between 6065000 men this is an enormous and expensive regular force for a country with a population of 7000000 military rebels against them theyre in trouble if you mean in uganda was aware of this he came to power in a coup so he knew a coup could replace him they have to coupe prove the regime they have to weaken the military we did this by creating parallel armies that could offset the power of the national. Guard even brought the north Korean Forces to train his infamous crack units the 5th brigade he didnt hesitate in putting his new army to use. Beginning in 1903 thousands of people in the provinces loyal to in coma were killed in what when known as the massacres Prime Minister Robert Mugabe is determined to wipe out of position and much of the labor. Party and its leader joshua Government Troops swept through northern much of the land looking for the socalled supporters of joshua thousands are believed to have died or sustained horrific injuries during that search sadly in just a few years the freedom to change from one who helped to remove this brutal white minority government to actually brutalizing is people mugabe had a huge Security Apparatus and used them as a tool against his opponents he used them to kill over 20000 people and use them to torture and to brutalize anyone who opposed him. Numerous talks held between mugabe and in comal to end the bloodshed broke down. In regard to this relationship im sorry to say we have been full. On the question of unity and the Central Committee of my party is a recent. We decided that the talks to be discontinued for the are serving d no useful purpose i have suffered i have worked hard for this country. For him to. Work song. To make stick and this. Traitor. Meant. To. Insult this war by 987 an estimated 20000 people from the in their ethnic minority had been killed this violence largely ended after mugabe and in como signs the unity according to simba 987 zanu ends up to merged to become zanu p f bringing mugabe one step closer to his ultimate goal. The merger of zanu and sample was a recognition of the need to submerge traditional or philosophical differences and unite the country. But it also fitted in with mugabes ambitions hed long expressed the wish to create a one party state that was tied to a more democratic system during the 7 year lifespan of the lancaster house agreement. I think what that means the biggest threat was hint self you know while he was in power and hes really was on a piece of party the opposition had been weakened over the years and and silenced to some extent. The most dangerous type of dictatorship is a persons dictatorship or one man war and thats because theres no institution to check their power in these dictators tend to make their decision in isolation in the case of the babee he was trying to personalize the regime he was trying to make every decision on his own almost a cheap did. In late 1987 the position of Prime Minister was a. Polished and mugabe became president within como as Vice President mugabe was edging closer to one man rule but he did make some concessions all that remained was to find a way to appease or rendered harmless bizarre to dissidents and that too was achieved. I. Decided to grab the general atmosphere to do the following categories of. Political field to jeeves from justice 3 persons under detention or imprisonment for up or intimidated. And como was no longer a threat but mugabe needed to maintain the loyalty of his people. Usually dictators are able to stay in power to a point without using violence so long as they control the flow of information public hitler called the press looting press the line press he said that anyone who stood up to his narrative was effectively lying to the public he called them the enemy of the people words that were echoed by mao and stalin and so this idea that anyone who says anything that the dictator doesnt agree with is lying but there is some sort of force against the people its a common tactic to turn the public against those sources the challenge the dictator mugabi exiled critical zimbabwean journalists and foreign media was strictly controlled or banned its the mugabe governments efforts to close down the press both foreign and domestic plain and simple they dont want a Critical Press they dont want a critical overseas press and so theyre trying to stop. Being a has over the years managed to stay in power by controlling the media. Be shut down all but one Television Channel and heavily censored its output. During his rule that there was no freedom of movement no freedom of speech freedom of expression as generalised many a to. I you know just trying to have a demonstration you also get a good and beaten up or i restated you have to control the media because once you control the narrative once you control the information the public consumes you can control how they think about problems. But also take control of independent sources of information by shutting them off to the public and that means state media it means shutting down press outlets i criticize them and it means jail in their opponents and this way theres not really an alternative narrative for the opposition to exploit because theyve already been silenced the. Other areas of society were also beginning to feel the pinch in 1996 strict austerity measures prompted Civil Servants nurses and Junior Doctors to strike over poor pay. Despite the economic crisis at home mugabe sent troops to the democratic republic of congo in 1998 to fight in the conflicts that became the 2nd congo war as a result International Economic aid to zimbabwe was halted and the country was millions of dollars worse off. Than meant to the late 1990 s. Characterized by civil unrest student protests and this was really to do with Food Shortages and crippling economic crisis in the country at that time. The people of zimbabwe were beginning to rebel against mcgarvie and in 1909 he was faced with a new political enemy when one of his greatest supporters turned against him. For the people they see the light at the end of the morgan chang began his political career as an Ardent Supporter of mugabe and zanu p. F. In 1909 chiang or i cofounded the movement for Democratic Change or m. D. C. Party which was formed in opposition to. Mugabes rule. But mugabe was undeterred and turned his attention back to land reform for 20 years we had been seeking a more equitable distribution of land but progress was painfully slow and 70 percent of zimbabwes Agricultural Land was still owned by white farmers. Mugabe called for a new constitution that would allow the go

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