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DW Close Up July 13, 2024

Middle of the city where people need to work ok i dont think its good that the climate scientists are logging enough so Extinction Rebellion they really need to get out of the public reaction is divided how far should protests be allowed to go. To. Make a case they are too good to make a. December 2900 the annual Un Climate Change Conference is underway in madrid. Representatives from 200. 00 countries have come together to negotiate agreements on effective ways to limit Global Warming. That. Was just outside the Conference Center thousands are calling for immediate action to avert what they see as an impending catastrophe. Among the most radical protesters are members of Extinction Rebellion otherwise known as x r im. 7 ready to go. Skiing around thought from the u. K. As a Founding Member of Extinction Rebellion she spends months on the road for the cause. Normally shed be out on the streets with the protesters. But here in madrid shes got an appointment with the summit president its a 1st for x r i was really nervous i was nervous that excited. But i feel the weight of responsibility in trying to. Build a relationship that can go on and thrive and create change you know they so far Extinction Rebellion has focused on mass demonstrations now the group is exploring Diplomatic Options as well. In october 29th teen the movement staged a series of protests in london that caused widespread disruption. The aim of the demonstration was to get the British Government to take urgent action to tackle Climate Change thousands of activists camped out in the city center stina wrath or was there to. Get a lay down and that is how can i get let this happen. As im not that. I think you oughta i just think that im not going to. Lay down and roll over unless this violence stops. Thats why she came to london to take part in the 2 week protest. She came to organize discussion panels bring activists together and give speeches. We want to fulfill government to meet. The tape. When not being on the way saying peace talks must peace listen to the scientists the academics the resurgence this civilization is in danger of collapsing. And. What are we going to do about it together. Skin around thors activism is motivated by very personal reasons. I have 3 children and i feel a deep sense of responsibility for. This well being something a place where they can have a Meaningful Life where they can enjoy the abundance of nature and live in harmony with their fellow kindred human souls is happening now and the projection for the next 5 years is that the middle of us will likely become barren and we are looking out but i mean 660000000. 00 to 1000000000. 00 refugees and displaced people and we are looking at food systems collapsing we are looking at climate shocks in all breadbasket. Those who support Extinction Rebellion believe that Climate Change has become a climate breakdown that threatens the future of humanity and that its imperative that action be taken immediately to reverse this trend. Their concerns are backed by scientific evidence. Im a change its happening ive studied it for 4 years and. Everyone needs to get on board and we need to start the science is out there for anyone who wants to see it its there its there for everyone. Exxon. It differs from the more moderate fridays for future movement and that its members openly advocate civil disobedience to call attention to their demands. They want their cause to be impossible to ignore. What some may consider breaking the law they see as an exercise in grassroots democracy as citizens we have the right as a protest we have the right to really voice that the world needs to change. The activists have 3 core demands 1st governments must tell the truth about the dangers of Global Warming and officially declare a Climate Emergency. Second action must be taken immediately. The goal of achieving climate neutrality that is net 0 c o 2 emissions by 2025 must have top priority. 3rd create a truly Democratic Political process for achieving these goals and a Citizens Assembly. Governments would have to take the assemblys recommendations into account. You know even a very difficult position from want to take and because actually in order to meet the crisis everything has to change and not just change it has to be completely rewired and transformed and what it means is democracy is why didnt is the plan and its about the devolution and essentially station all of us. On the 1st day of the protest activists in london glued themselves to scaffolding the police had to use a solvent to free them before they could be arrested. By the. 5 many Extinction Rebellion protesters actually try to get themselves arrested. The more people taken into. Custody they argue the greater the disruption to the system was. That also conveys a message that so many people are willing to fight for Climate Change there must be something to it. During the 29000 london protests about 1400 of some 30000 activists were taken into custody most held only briefly. At about the same time the London High Court ruled that Police Efforts to stop the protests were unlawful. After that dozens of demonstrators sued the police for false arrest. Extinction rebellion says it now has more than 350 groups and 50 different countries. In new york last year they brought traffic to a standstill. In paris they spilled vag blood down steps near the eiffel tower. Zurich they poured biodegradable dye into the lima river to call attention to their concerns about pollution. Environmental activists of all ages took part. There are about 120. 00 x. Our chapters in germany including 4 in berlin. Parallel to the october demonstration in london an extended protest was held in the german Capital Police said about 1000 people blocked a busy roundabout causing serious traffic disruptions. Activist alex flick was there recording of the berlin protests. All over a muslim abodes were clearing off after this is going on in front of. The barman for ministry. A month later moved to berlin from prague in 2017 on his way to meet a colleague. Who slick who joined Extinction Rebellion in march 2900 videos of protests that are later posted on social media. He also takes part in the demonstrations himself. After the rebellion weekly hot in october plenty of people realize. The topic itself because before people didnt know about the scale of Climate Crisis so i think nowadays because we kind of shocked the media and called the Media Attention i think theyre coming out too because theyre to us because theyre curious and they want to participate in any way they can i guess if they havent time. To 6 appointment is with mariana blow who organizes onboarding sessions and theyre in the information events that introduce and explain the movement to new members. And its run i said about doing all the coup slickened bloom have spoken several times theyve never met you know her sisters or. Ok. Together they watch alex crucifix latest video. Is the 1st that was it is what i do yeah people. Come here to me its really the wrong. Where are all. Her are and do your friends reactions on the on this post for example oh theyre oh my god theyre theyre doing fine. Some people a few times well. Its really just the trolls nothing you know. So many people just dont want to have fun like when we do the book one if you sit down to do this you can just like freeze their you know down somehow you know you have to move you have to cheer up. You know. Extinction rebellion says its campaign is a political work so thats in the some time that weve been criticized for that and whats interesting is that it comes from the far edge and the far left exley big school or the left to say were not radical enough and they accuse us of not being sufficiently at you capitalist. But thats not out of the capitalist most could take over and we are guided by the principle that we will do what we have to do to achieve our goal of the good seed bizarre and that is to create a future that will be worth living for everyone is just that it has nothing to do with politics left all right thats what makes a place to. Be out of bloom is a professional cabaret performer who donates her time to Extinction Rebellion. Took his commitment a step further. Thats my profession bought for rebelling week i quit a job. Under a rebel and weak. Being in the field being in the action and shooting everything and posting so. I was super busy when i was the full time job while doing the running room if someone doesnt care about environment at all its just like bit like suicidal you know. Latest report not really going to read the latest reports how grim it could be even in like 20 years with shortages of food and water and whatever. You know we would be stupid not to do anything against you in the 1st place. Money on a boom is on her way to host an orientation event for new members similar events are held in several different german cities and theres no need to register in advance. Because like is going to film tonight session with his mobile phone a good. Hot girl or youre all. During the evening the latest Climate Research is presented and the movements core demands are outlined goals politicians must declare a Climate Emergency Carbon Neutrality must be achieved by 2025 and a Citizens Assembly must be created to address environmental problems. That these assemblies will be informed by experts although people from the also industry are also welcome but it wont be that people from the auto and Energy Industries can lobby the ministry for months on end with environmentalist only there on occasion much as i mind a lab. X. Our members should it here to 10 principles they include no blaming and shaming. Members are not allowed to criticize other individual its like people who drive s. U. V. S or eat meat as if they must focus on the system as a whole when c. P. S. Did was one can then cut another principle is nonviolence Extinction Rebellion us for calm. Demand we welcome everyone just as they are but if all you want to do is throw rocks all scream at the police then exxon is not for you for example we would never attack coal miners school or even criticize that. In fact wed like to see coal miners join us when we hold sit down strikes. On selfish quite some thats not a. Name if thats the thing you want on the movement has a decentralized leadership structure. That has a sort then usually theres a boss or head who tells people what to do. Is get but we dont have a leadership hierarchy and. This is stroud a town in southwestern england thats home to about 13000 people. Its environmentally friendly culture has been attracting Free Thinkers and artistic types for many years. It was here that Extinction Rebellion was founded in october 28th seen by about 20 activists who were frustrated that their demands for reforms were being ignored so they decided to adopt a radical protest program that included acts of civil disobedience. The skin around thought lives here with her family. Rural life helps her to cope with the stress of taking part in protests. Theres a restore ration that happens to me at home with my children being with them and cooking and listening to them but also in my garden in the woods that we live next to me and. Yeah so its so important to put my feet back in to what feels much actually and what feels like the reason. The members of Extinction Rebellion have learned through experience that taking time off is important to deal with the physical and psychological strain. We have a very we clear culture that we have periods of intense activity that we we are asked to rest and recuperate and regenerate and reflect on what that activity meant for us what moved in us what the questions it has left us with. A lot of people in stroud are environmental activists its a tried community. Bradbrook Founding Member of extinction or die and has lived here with her 2 sons since 2006 i think that shes been committed to protecting the environment most of her life and. Living sustainably is possible but its only part of the solution. Together with others in Stroud Gail Bradbrook manages a Community Garden but to stop Climate Change she says require much more than actions of individuals we know that 50 percent of emissions come from 10 percent of the population so its really important that people with the biggest footprints really think about what theyre doing how much they fly in what theyre eaten or me included in that but we have a system thats based on focus on profit rather than purpose and therefore whatever you do as long as you can get away with it youll create pollution youll hurt people youll hurt the planet so something has to change systemically here just simply changing how you consume start going to be enough. Gail bradbrook believes that everyone without exception must take part in the effort to reduce Global Warming. For some that may mean leading a simpler life. I dont think we need all this stuff that weve all got we just need whats next to us and im not talking about you know going back to the caves and and live in really rough lives but slowing down enough to appreciate what we have. I mean isnt this heaven its beautiful. Yeah just. I dont like to have part of my life just be slower again and i dont know how many more seasons are see i think the risk of a mass extinction as bad as the permian mass extinction is significant. Bradbrook who has a ph d. In molecular biology quit her last job to work full time for x r. The organization pacer 800. 00 pounds a month to help cover her expenses. And although shes a Founding Member of the movement she doesnt consider herself a leader. Leadership is something Everybody Needs to do next thing she rebellion youve got to have a Leadership Perspective on your own life like what is it when you look at the whole thing so if youre in a group youre not just thinking about your own role in that group youre thinking about how well the groups go in and maybe at some time somebody will come whos better at doing that job the man i can retire. To get. In the fight to save the climate bradbrook is also willing to resort to drastic measures on occasion last october she broke a window during a demonstration at the department for transport in london. Overall we know that civil disobedience is something that works in the world and thats necessary so sometimes you kind of have to lift the focus. On. The department for transport they are not spending the money they should on cycling for example theyre driving forward to a huge infrastructure problem project called hate as to which is a high speed rail which might sound great but actually its an Airport Shuttle service to expand their v. A. Shouldn and its going to be the biggest deforestation of the u. K. Since world war one for some people they think youve broken a window its violent but a Minor Property damage is to my mind its not its not violent nobody was at any risk so i dont consider that violent. The hammer used to break the glass was borrowed. After it was confiscated bradbrook sent the owner a replacement. In her eyes violence is what government and industry are doing to the planet the harm being inflicted on the environment is a measurable also financially speaking. Bradbrook thinks the 27000 pounds worth of damage she caused during her protest pales in comparison. Because of the willingness to damage property some have criticised Extinction Rebellion member says eco terrorists journalist Robin Whitlock was a self a member of the movement for several weeks. Now whitlock is calling for moderation in the climate debate hes especially concerned about controversial remarks made by x r cofounder roger holland. Is now. They seem to be giving the impression that you know if we dont do that. And turn things around within the next 12 years then well be talking sort of an apocalyptic scenario which kind of life on earth its wide and all that kind of thing and that is just really kind of productive all it does is scare people when it just lock people into a sense of panic and if youre in a sense of panic then you can think clearly about how to tackle the problem that clay. Roger harlem is known to be outspoken and sometimes thats got him into trouble even among ex are members who recently said he wanted to quote drug around through to ensure that it was clear. There were people inside your own organization or said when a house is on fire you have to break down the door. And was also sharply criticized for remarks in which he appeared to downplay the holocaust. This intentional was to provoke and got some Media Attention by saying that the future could be even worse that the whole course i mean he said that its. Like another. Human history but obviously like for germany its the most sensitive topic there is i think it was not very forceful would he do it very stupid. Afterwards x. R. Chapters in germany and britain condemned hallums remar

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