are soon. going to be yours today the floaters future. of the city the making. clear. the. hello and welcome to the joys of eligibility top of world economic forum in davos switzerland i'm sorry kelly how are the leaders making good on their commitments to create a more sustainable world 5 years ago the united nations wrote an ambitious. to do list addressing the world's most pressing issues including climate change poverty and education now the deadline to achieve the sustainable development goals is 2030 and while some progress has been made no country is on track to meet all of the goals our session today is a decade to deliver the global goals we have a very distinguished panel let's get started on him steiner is joining us as administrator of the united nations development program welcome to you. one jew he general jay is a climate activist and a global shaper from kenya welcome to q. mohamad agenda is an activist focusing on refugee rights and education and post office is vice chairman of the executive committee and chief scientific officer at johnson and johnson thank you so much to all of you for being here today and please let's welcome our panel. and he might like to begin with you because you have been a champion of the sustainable development goals from the very beginning you also had a role to play in the 2015 paris climate accord set the stage for us what does our world look like in 10 years if we do not take dramatic action now. i think it will be a more stressed world it will be a world where if you do not believe in our capacity to work together to solve these problems we will increasingly turn against each other that maybe sometimes for geographical or political reasons but you know just look at the debate right now on are we going to act together on climate change or are we going to have to change our global trade system to the point where those countries who are not coming along in going towards a low carbon economy will in future have to pay tariffs in order to import goods into another part of the world that is acting on this issue so i think the s.t.g. of the sustainable development goals should 1st and foremost be understood as an extraordinary collective view of the future of the greatest risks we face and therefore also the goals we need to set ourselves to address them that's the 17 goals but much more important perhaps in here are some of the lessons from the recent past leave no one behind it's a very easy phrase to side but just think for a moment the evening news last year riots people stepping out on the streets dissatisfaction unfairness inequality those are the drivers that are also dividing us in our own society so this geez i'm not just a set of lofty goals they're actually a risk map of the world and they are a proposition how to address them but young people around the world have to say you mentioned people out on the streets we saw 14000000 young people out on the streets this past september of course of the climate strikes are they saying that it's not enough that there is certainly not enough progress when you hear out i'll turn to you now because you're climate activists you're of the generation that is currently protesting you're also you know you're doing grass roots activism trying to organize local communities for climate action have you been able to have the kind of impact that you would like to think you can be for having me and. then a huge campaign called save our forests. that was very successful the money to push the government to pools. have esteem of forests of trees in community and public forests however the village where i come from was very angry and the tunde against . and they were justified to do that because they had to can away their only source of income. without giving them an alternative and that pushed me to realize that i was going through this the wrong way and i feel that the world needs to rethink yes it's important that you put pressure we start asking that governments and organizations rethink the old ways of doing things but we also need to think about the how i feel about there how are we going to transition has been missing in the entire conversation so this is my village feeling the heat of the ban on harvesting of lot of trees but this is the same with the international organization big organizations are to do business because of little of the day the primary goal of any organization or any business is to make profits but how do we transition from fossil fuels to. more sustainable products and that is something that has actually been up for debate here about what the primary responsibility of a corporation should be look at about a little bit later in our program but mohamed i'd like to turn to you 1st so you can tell us a little bit more about your story because you're very much fighting for refugee rights for education you have a school actually that you started in lebanon and it's an initiative which has really been informed by your own personal experience your syrian refugee yourself 1st 11 and now you're in suite and tell us more well as you all known 2011 a revolution happened in syria. my parents had to take part of the protest is the protest were for the future of the children there were to make syria a place where we can actually develop and improve ourselves. too that led to my mom getting arrested twice and then the death threats so we had to flee the country and when we arrive to lebanon which is a neighboring country to syria i couldn't go to school for almost 3 years. so i decided to set one for myself. now the school teaches around $740.00 students every 6 months and we've been running for a run 5 years so we've graduated around $7000.00 participants including women men and children the women and men we work with are mainly the mothers and now i live in sweden and i think the mission of trying to bring back the focus on certain issues that in a sense has been forgotten by the public because activism is like anything else as a trend. and we do realize as people who come from those backgrounds that climate change is important because we live the impacts of it every day but we need to bring back the focus on certain issues like education to for a for food for us to lift those and such regions up so they can start caring about climate change and acacia and s e g 3 we're going to turn now also to education for we're going to turn now to c g 3 which is health and wellbeing. to johnson and johnson the world's largest health care company you're obviously an incredibly influential position in order to make progress in this area so tell us what you're doing. will be tried to translate to good signs and good science and technology into real applications for progress thing health in the world and so today there's the norm is progress in signs and technology to solve the most important diseases in the world. we have made enormous progress over the last so many years in infectious diseases reflect scenes in the collective tropical diseases with new medicines in child care that with with much better care and so progress that that progress should continue but on the other hand the challenge of all of the new diseases which now become almost equal everywhere in the world is like mental held dementia diabetes is. a healthy surgery essential surgery all those. that they can all of your just we need to translate that in order to make you the village will do as many as possible people who will for the help that will be told is the most important factor in well being and we have to make sure we use the best technology in the world to make that happen and the big question that we asked at the beginning of the session is is the world on track to deliver those sustainable development goals and just like to check with the team to see if we perhaps have some results on that i'm not saying them at the moment but in the meantime i'll turn to you and ask you. about some of the challenges you know perhaps we can we can have an open and honest conversation about this because the reality is as follows i mean when it comes to climate biodiversity these trends are moving backward are you worried that we're not going to get there. absolutely and i think this is why you know also at the united nations we continuously try to provide the world with a score card and a way to monitor progress because clearly. in one sense we are not getting there if you take everybody on the planet together but it's also important to recognize where we are getting there and many countries many communities on many goals are actually progressing and that's why i think it is important to not take the collective failure to move fast enough at the moment as a reason not to believe that this can work on the other hand and this is what we see also here at the world economic forum every year too many for too long have simply held on to yesterday's economy because it actually serves some very well but what it has done is it has prevented tomorrow's economy from emerging from being financed from being put in the hands of those who actually have the most to benefit from it so much of what we also are discussing we talk about climate change or access to health. is essentially inequality and this is why i think we are in some ways at a point where people on our question the whole concept of globalization you know as human beings we will always trade with each other i think to to argue that we would step away from a notion that we belong to planet earth in which many people do things with each other would be a strange thing to do at the beginning of the 21st century but the rules of the game are simply leaving too many people out and so back to what used when i think been out on what the how so yesterday's should not be i think question because they are in a sense an expression of wisdom they're not the answer to everything the question is how do they actually make it happen this is a very different time including in terms of opportunities again here in davos we learned a lot from the frontiers of technology the digital economy that's emerging extraordinary opportunities for inclusion but if you don't make the right choices about how to use it it could actually amplify inequalities so this is you know human history repeats itself and here we are the beginning of the 21st century mohamed would you like to respond to that i mean what do you think is most important when it comes to achieving a sustainable development goals. i mean. we've always talked back back in the refugee camps in the school that having 17 goals turns into more of a wish list rather than goals and what we what we were and what we usually discuss on the streets because that's where i was born that's where i was raised that's where my education from in the streets is if you have a goal which is 17 goals was a lot a lot of goals need to start prioritizing some of them at the problem is if we continue treating those goals as depending on what's trending on the activism like for example nowadays climate change won't be able to go anywhere because if we're doing we're going to discuss climate change because it's the biggest issue on the world economic forum have betting on faces on it since we came here which is an important issue and that we've been impacted by the in the middle east and i do recognize it as going to affect every everyone so we need to work on it but the problem is if the focus is so much on that specific issue and other issues not by united nations but by other actors or forgotten like education like inequality like health if those other issues are forgotten the rest of the world wouldn't be able to care about climate change wouldn't be able to join the fight for climate change and we're seeing this happening i was in lebanon on a couple months ago and i'm in contact with my fellow in lebanon in mexico and south africa and everywhere and we talk about them and they do care about climate change but they're not doing anything about it and they tell me it's not our problem so if you have a whole region who's saying climate is not their problems i think this is an issue and that when i when i asked the question the answer is usually we're not there yet we're not we can't do anything about climate change yet because we don't have school because don't have food on our tables because we don't have good health so we need to stop treating activism as a trend because it's not a trend it's not because someone got famous we need to start focusing on that specific issue people are on the streets struggling and dying every day i came here last last words i came here there is a plenty of sessions most sessions or about climate change which is fascinating as again we support climate change. but there is 0 sessions' about yemen it's one of the biggest humanitarian issues nowadays people are dying because of hunger and there's 0 sessions about it there is 0 sessions about the social movements are happening in a lot of the world like in hong kong like in india like in lebanon like in iraq what's going on we're not focused we can focus and trends because we can skim to need to be self centered in europe and in the u.s. because there is the rest of the world and we come from the rest of the world. function which i like to i am. a very fundamental point of meeting the basic needs of people before we can talk of language and we need to realize that all the all these things are intertwined eve of our farms where farm produce is destroyed for instance there was flooding in kenya then we will not have food security so but the primary monday to every government is to ensure that the people prove and protect the lives of the people that's a minute of government and government has feel that is why people are on the street that's why we're in the campaign to save our forest because there was months of destruction of our forests so governments have failed on the a mandate and i want to speak for the good global south especially yes we are the least of meters but then we also have a role to play in terms of creating strong polices you know the truth is that if there is money to be made legally somebody is going to make money out of it also feel biden may see the lack of wheel to move forward with an organization or a company like coca-cola comes out and says that we are not going to buy and one single use plastic because people who said that they should remain i think it's it's just wrong it come from europe be aware when it rains it floods and then there are times when children spend the night in school buses because the sea or systems are clogged by p.t. bottles and their photos even on the internet if you were to google you will find it was a go go bottle plastic bottles and floods in a row you will see being the thousands so when we see that when are willing to face out who want to go for the easy way out i question our intention and i think the word for the decay because we know what we ought to do but we're not doing i feel for me the word for the decade should be intentionality because we know that all these things are intertwined look at what is happening in australia and it is directly linked to what is up. stuff like you know the fires of the flooding there interlinked through indian ocean. paul our company is taking the easy way out as 12 here just mentioned i mean talk to us because if you're in the world economic forum stakeholder capitalism is certainly a very topic this year it seems to be on the lips of every single c.e.o. but is it really happening and does it have the potential to happen in a way that is meaningful and that can exact change and progress toward bastardy as . individual as companies and we as a restaurant world we have to do much more much faster but. as a health care person i see optimism and i want to be optimistic on what has been achieved over the last few years and going forward if you look look at child mortality in africa and in the world has dramatically decreased with mark demise in the use of fact seems to prevent disease. the child mortality and burkhauser mother decreased because of training and new types of ways of caring from all of us so the progress is there what we need to the strong partnership between those who develop technologies those who would bring technology is to the world but also those who implement and i heard it occasion i think we need many more health care workers in the front lines to be able to work with people we need to do we need to partnership with the countries to bring you technologies but also make them very effective in getting really bad and you have been very effective with this new technology i just want to highlight one particular point as for example your tuberculosis treatment has has received a lot of accolades but it's been criticized for its pricing. can you do more i mean can you make a commitment here to do more for example we do a huge commitment to make sure that every person in the world get access. of law. in the last 34 years we treat more than a 180000 reasons with the r t b we have a huge implementation organization in the world doing that. with countries company organization we donate and so what we do is donation now on the other hand there are countries and our governments in the world who have ability to pay and so it's not all be donations because it has to be a sustainable world in the same 40 h.l.v. medicines although very low prize it's an industry who produces today thousands of tons of new medicines that you need a huge industrial capacity to continue to do that so if those small amounts of money but at the same time it is makes it sustainable if something is a donation it's not sustainable and so we have to work with all the partners involved to make sure that everyone who needs it get access in the couple was that you highlighted some of the complexities when it comes to achieving a c.j.'s from the perspective of a business and i had meant to turn to you now and ask you about this complexity is from the perspective of politics because young people around the world are calling for no compromise that is really clear. what is possible right now when we look at the limitations of politics. offer perhaps an interpretation of the no compromise i think our young people are actually extremely wise in savvy people their call for no compromise is a judgment on the very bad compromises that they have been sold over the years so i think what they're saying is no more of that kind of compromise i think when i listen to young people today where they were engaged in environmental issues on issues of human rights and education on refugees 1st of all i find the generation is extraordinarily well informed much more able to judge for themselves what is right and wrong and therefore i think playing a much larger part in the public debate so when we sit here and there was me talk about stakeholder capitalism there are 2 things that are in a sense coming together one is capitalism is essentially about an economy in which capital really determines what happens and so when we started most stakeholder capitalism it's an interesting moment because what you're essentially positing is look capital cannot be the single and sole determinant of what happens in our society so can stakeholders really be shaping that outcome if they don't on capital so this is the debate of our time it's not a compromise it's a kind of reassertion that yes there are people who have capital but then there are markets there are democracies there are societies and i think that is a discussion that is extremely timely because frankly speaking simply replicating the 20th century economy into the 21st century is going to lead us to more and more crisis and here if i may just say one thing to mohamed part of the reason why we have the sustainable development goals is 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