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DW Close Up July 13, 2024

Weekend but during school hours. In europe the young activists spent their Summer Vacation Building Networks discussing in formulating their shared values and core demands. 16 year old funk ahem bliss from berlin has been active in the fridays for a future movement for 6 months schools out for the summer but shes been up since 6 oclock. Yes. Lets cut her friend a meal are heading to dortmund in western germany to take part in a fridays for a future Summer Congress. They met on a strike. If anything. Theyre on their way to the station like all the young environmental activists in the movement they make a point of never flying and only travel by bus or by train. Throughout the summer climate camps are taking place all over europe including in poland the Czech Republic italy and germany. 1400 activists are attending the congress in dortmund. They start the day with a quick breakfast theyre on a tight schedule the 1st panels and workshops are kicking off at 9 am sharp. As im not talking about how to ask if she could help but she disappeared. Well im not helping i dont want to porridge. There are now 600. 00 local chapters of fridays for future in germany theyre connected on social media for the dortmund summit is the 1st time theyve all come together and met in person. Its been an organizational feat. But it was over months or supporters are going to make it its a very weve made a big effort to be as professional as possible i think were doing very well we all have bracelets weve set everything up. Made sure that everyone knows what their job is and that they do it properly ma. Says its sometimes im just. Thats just a person whos of course a man i dont know what its like at a professional congress but i feel weve achieved a level of professionalism thats actually very impressive. By and focused on so i mean. The congress is also about. Building networks. Has met 16 year old lane of from switzerland. The organizers have invited Christoph Schmidt to take part in a panel about carbon tax the chairman of the German Council of Economic Experts he advises the German Government on Carbon Pricing. And its a misconception you have just read that it was 22. 00 degrees celsius in greenland yesterday and within just 24 hours 12000000 tonnes of ice melted we want to know what we can do to stop this happening to prevent temperatures from continuing to rise. And a carbon tax is one proposal that comes up again and again. As you said people are miserly and thats why pricing works you could put it like this theres some things free its not worth anything that was fair is used as a free dumping ground for Carbon Emissions theres no global cost applied to this and thats why its overused. Believes that Carbon Pricing would make the German Government stick to its climate targets. But with the general public accept it. Fridays for future is calling on the government to introduce a 180 year old tax on each metric ton of c o 2 in europe per capita c o 2 emissions are 8. 00 tonnes a year so everyone would have to pay 1512. 00 euros in carbon tax schmidt says thats too much. The maximum tax the public would accept would be 40 euros per tonne. And people would also need incentives if they make environmentally friendly choices such as not driving or not flying for example they could claim a reimbursement that the main issue schmidt says is raising awareness. See this will do a lot of the statistics floating around are made up so its important that the issues in the background are properly understood to. The students want solutions that work and they want them now. They ask a lot of questions lina is interested in the International Context you. Can mandate so its what is the best way of moving ahead locally with a carbon tax obviously every country has to agree on it its no use doing nothing just sitting tight and waiting to see what other countries do to test i must give nations if you we would already be doing a lot if we achieve the targets agreed within the e. U. That would be an important step if europe china and the u. S. Were all on board by 2030 years huge step so we cant force you to act its not for us to persuade them that its worth it. Its. The stuff can they just what other countries do is not the issue switzerland germany whatever have a responsibility thats. Saying ill only do it if you do it its just childish of us must do this and fast in this and sent us. Other countries are always being used as an excuse for any of this will only do it if you do it attitude gets us nowhere if thats what all countries do then all that happens is whats happening now nothing lifts the fridays for future activists refused to compromise in their demands so far the movement has been a loose collection of disparate groups the head of the Summer Congress 18 year old jaco blasdell founded the organization organize future which manages the events budget of 200000. 00 euros made up of participant contributions and donations. As all income no individual can be liable for the vent involving 1400. 00 people but if i end up with physical we found an association so we could take out Liability Insurance lets go bankrupt it allows us to sign proper contracts. For the Global Climate strike in may we were at the movement within survive the summer in germany malevolent activities all those worries were invalid but we felt we had to do something something exciting. That would unify the movement and raise its profile in the media. We decided to organize congress the brought everyone together and demonstrate the combined force of the movement by the poet is a very good orator. 2 the fridays for future movement is active in over 100 countries. Its also expanded into Eastern European countries. 2 and poland around 700. 00 young activists are taking part in a summer camp halfway between post and warsaw. That i was. This is the competition. All the organizations and movements that i hear from them just a short space of time are going south to your office. Of compassion weve got Extinction Rebellion which never exist all over europe what it was they came with it literally a School Strike which i belong to and for future poland and these guys so i would come for Climate Action arguments the event yesterday i was lucky not to know today is its how its over that way again. 17 year old antonio vision esky michelle goes to school in warsaw hes been organizing the School Strikes in the polish capital for nearly a year and poland the issue of Climate Change doesnt get much attention. I did juggle for you at school. I learnt a bit about the climate i would works and how its changing. Theres not much discussion and the polish media. Also did french at school and i read articles in french in english and in spanish. I only learnt about the terrible state of the climate from the foreign media. That. Polands populist right wing government only recently knowledge that human activity is a key driver of Climate Change. Only 15 members of the polish chapter of fridays for future are attending the camp many are put off by the fact the event is being closely monitored by police. She told the friend the rest of the. Status that i was on Early Morning juicy and it was really funny business the best time because the cops come along and 5 as though. They look to the left to the right and drive past you in this really the monstrous of way. The place is crawling with them d. And i know what were going to do tomorrow. Its going to be hard to miss the museum much of a chest. The activists are planning a protest tomorrow the demonstration has been officially registered with the authorities but another secret protest is also scheduled. Cameras arent allowed at this meeting. The police are out in full force on the. Testers start gathering the next day. Im going to focus on that theyre heading for the town of coney an hours drive away its close to an open pit lignite mine. That was at the back of their fellow theres lots of coal mining in poland. This here is the worst kind. Of mining. Its highly toxic. And the problem is that many mines in poland i do love to take it and im its a lot of pollutants over there is the mind. 84 percent of polands electricity comes from fossil fuels such as cold and late night and just 14 percent from Renewable Energies in comparison 50 percent of electricity in germany is generated from fossil fuels 33 percent from Renewable Energies and 12 percent from Nuclear Power in france only 10 percent is derived from fossil fuels 18 percent from Renewable Energies and 72 percent from nuclear energy. Theres got to thousands of very good oh oh oh oh i just got to that im going to blow that is go after that south bank of 00000200 activists are taking part in the demonstration near conan. Many reporters are also here. But tony and his friends with fridays for future are among the protesters. The police dont intervene. Guns and that yeah well. That bad out. Im going to. Yeah. Yes. I thought it. Was the protesters approach the mine the tensions rise. The police are worried that the activists will try to break through the police barrier. Of the striking of the chief read this for future problems that none of the ground rules for fridays for future in poland is that all our activities are legal. If this was even in terms of civil disobedience we stick to whats legal. We believe that way well have the biggest reach and the best chances of actually changing things in poland yes this is this. Whole Movement Shares this principle that theres. Its how much we dont break the rules. On the surface of. Their official demonstration stops outside the mine. On the other side the illegal one organized by the camp for Climate Action and Extinction Rebellion breaks through the police lines. In poland and elsewhere the activists are far from sure that they can really bring about change. A lot of missing is a move away you feel powerless but when you look over there and see how many people have gathered then you realize we might be in with a chance its the elections its were trying to get that number it all these great people have come together but of course when you look at this vast area of protests can feel in significance whats astounding is absolute bullshit on that. Back in dortmund its friday strike day. The 1400 activists who come to dortmund from all over germany. Have divided up into groups. They dont want to disrupt public transport. I. I. Was. I the german wing of the movement has very specific demands the activists want germany to phase out coal by 2030 and to have made a 100 percent switch to Renewable Energy by 2035 i think its a i. Do not i want to start by saying im here even though its School Holidays and to be honest i wouldnt mind taking a vacation. But we cant afford to waste time even though the politicians have all taken vacations. Why was that. I was i do. If the demonstrations had been held on saturdays or sundays no one would have paid them any attention there would have just been a bunch of kids demonstrating in germany or wherever and no t. V. Station would have bothered reporting it. Because theyre missing School People are paying attention thats how it works thats on the border ok this is a lot i was. But. I. As soon as the demonstrations over laina and john luka head to the station. Dana is spending the summer into railing from one climate camp to another. The next is in lozano. Lane helped organize it. And so do you know about the School Strikes hes at school. So are we i dont live there on fridays arent they im not against them but in my opinion the strike should be held at the weekend and not during school hours schools are important in this case this is. The stuff thats inside that. School is used as leverage against us were striking to demand something be done thats i mean this out of sight but if you dont go to school youre messing up your future going to school is also doing something for your future. You know this is the future we supposedly wont have a few dont go to school is threatened anyway by Climate Change. Nonsense this country its not nonsense and look at the scientific studies youll realize pretty quickly that its not nonsense commissionaire this country nothing came of it and how will you be able to get any qualifications if you dont go to school show missing 2 hours on a friday isnt a big deal out of your absences will be noted on your report card i dont care you dont care. Doesnt matter thats no it doesnt matter if youre absences are noted on your report card sorry i cant talk about this and all of the chips this is a must like think i feel like ive learned so much from the climate strikes about organizing and bands about science and chaffed and so her argument doesnt work for me yeah finished. Yeah yeah i feel the climate strikes me loads of life skills. If you create more than a lens and 12 years of School Situation im sure many shows. And loads on 400. 00 young environmental. Activists are attending the smile for future conference their aim is to lay out their demands in a formal fridays for future declaration. A message for governments and political institutions. The congress is being held and the university of laws on. The plane is in a work group with students from 6 countries with their formulating the movements strategic goals these will be included in the declaration here i think thats a near us of the clere show. How we were in the original right so were talking about 2 Different Things because youre talking about having broken Group Identity and a declaration and i dont agree on that. So its to create 3 sentences promotional structure a particular sort of fair to the book to go but then to do thats one of the options which is also its great to go so well its National Structure documents at one point i dont. Just exist but there are delegations from 38 countries. From the outset the movement has had the support of respected climate experts one of them as. Vice chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change from 2008 to 2015. Thanks we had many things in common. And became an. Easy. Change which presented to. Special reports this morning goodness lippold name. These young people are very well informed on the Climate Crisis more so than political Decision Makers in the general public but it came as a surprise. As to me my marriage the Climate Change conference in qatar and i could see she was able to give very detailed answers to scientific questions no politician can do that shes or read the literature of the faith a lot a lot of young people are familiar with the i. P. C. C. Reports. Thank you for what you write is done thank you for whats you doing i would like to thank great. Teacher. I know she is not that leader. She doesnt want to be a leader but she longs to strike and she student spies. Moments at the International One thats right his future has become. Gratitude begged the star of the fridays for future movement is also here she sits with the other participants. The movement is nonhierarchical and democratic and every vote counts equally in the. Right lane presents the results of her work group. Its exploration dario our values and principles that demand so that but we have bought that book live on ted other people know about it said. The participants are seeking consensus on all the decisions the 1st vote is on the introduction to the declaration of the protocols because of the society ecosystems is on the horizon and son is married and its what happens in the next most of the years this is the future of humankind the lead to extinction is a possible outcome a dream of this clear asian intent. Those who agree wave their hands. On position. And im just saying this we improve this if we are able to make some just phrasing changes i think thats what we want to do just that you dont get angry with us. I dont think anybodys. But of course the word you can be changed in the whole the can be changed and you move probably change still is there any strong opposition against this proposal. Good it was. The next day the students demonstrating lows on. The School Strikes polarize opinion. Which may well be why theyve succeeded in sparking debate about climate protection in many countries. Plain as younger sister and her mother are also taking part today. It must be so. That that you know the sad. Truth of the events where is Global Perspectives stand together and so dirty we both know we are something which. We not do you think youll see it feel it in it does a lot herself shes very independent she doesnt always give us a choice thats when the discussion starts and theyre not always polite or constructive. Or sometimes i think the climate strikes have the last word and i dont think that can be difficult and that in the morning with the keep this. Couple of times ive called her teacher and asked is it really all right as far as her schooling is concerned. He told me he let me know if it started to become an issue well mr. Mcgee and hear this. This this and that is active the guys id like to keep doing this is much as possible it has

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