Washington sinks. And whos to blame. Or welcome to conflicts on. Than a stranger to conflicts in but youre welcome you had president ial elections again once again being allegations of widespread fraud who can have confidence in the results of these elections when they when the results come. Yes you know we had an election despite. Intimidations despite all of the threats. And also a lot of naysayers so im talking about forward. Just you know coming to this but having the situation in afghanistan shows that dissolve the Afghan People to decide their fate democratically but the question wolf in order. It is in the elections which has been in the past also in afghanistan unfortunately so far the reports that i have received this that that it has been a much a much better election than before so who accept there is a reason we have seen who says that all if you look at the all the independent observers of this election they are telling us giving you know the new regulation the mechanisms by a metric devices this election has been working in many places so im guessing when they were working they werent followed they werent you bastards thats then technical technical issues to be to its not just a technical issue its reluctance of people to use them so it is just a learning learning process but but coming to the results of the election they both can demene all the candidates but including the board for the frontrunners been very categorically clear that they will accept it is out of this election announced by the independent Election Commission of a show shouldnt it that will make a change of the accepted the results because of that there was a lot of negotiation that had to take place in 2014 which was also mobbed by massive fraud as well last years parliamentary elections as well so you dont you dont have a good record here the system is completely isnt it you see it as i say they know this is a learning process my the sticks and the other sticks of money observers in afghanistan should be that or were doing better than the past or its getting worse so i will say this election is much better than the previous election i mean look at look it was the constant ambassador last month we had the former heads of the Election Commission and the Electoral Complaints Commission both jailed for fraud along with 8 members of their staff how many other people are involved in fraud right up and of the country how many you see that also again showed the result of this state that the Election Fraud will not will not go in. Easy with it so i think thats part of building a strong institutions but if you look at the case of this and certainly this was only the tip of the iceberg this is the tip of your other thing the purpose of it and then well get to the bottom of it to the New York Times reported that in case our district in the province one of the elders told them the local strongmen had been stuffing the ballot boxes they sat together and each filled the boxes for their guy they said we cant leave these boxes empty we said but what about the biometric verification they said whos going to love its that kind of attitude is the scene. In multiply many many times the country many times you see term you know in afghanistan now its 16 years that we are doing collection and so as they learn this 160 years where you know where we have this interview and i asked the swiss that they know how they are making the estate to be honest you see it depends on you know how you build institutions and you build the trust with them that is to show the case that you have mentioned of course the report when you are terms i dont have the verification of it but even if that is accurate it shows that you know people do this still trust institutions and who can make institutions trustable is the central state in a government in kabul and thats why you know they put this Commission Hours into the trial we introduced the most advanced system of. Yes which produced which people are using ambassador in another district no less a person than the speaker of the senate and the county loyalist issued a direct threat to the chief of the Election Commission on television after she said only the biometrically check the votes would be counted his response on television was we will force even her daddy to count the non biometric votes great to see how powerful people are just tearing up the rules and making room as they go along and our focus. Yes no interest in the bonus heroes but subsequently the he apologized and he apologized to the head of the Election Commission and again it shows a change in a country like afghanistan where paul for person like the president of the senate apologizes to a woman who is the head of the Election Commission of afghanistan i think that shows a change of attitude im not saying that the u. S. Perfect were moving were through is progress to i do you know as a person who lives in afghanistan and ive seen you know your fracturing of straws and. You see when youre in our situation you do that youre president s of the election was needed to give the new president a powerful mandate but there is no powerful mandate to be had in afghanistan certainly not by elections fact is the power real power in your country is not through democratic means but by a few doing fractious collection of strongmen warlords corrupt officials and they dont have much use for democracy do the wasnt the case in the europe in the past i mean was there a centuries do you want to go about living in 2019 i think thats the difference between europe and our country so we are moving in that direction and not proud of murder torture forced disappearances intimidation this kind of thing that goes on in your country and you compare it to europe not more of course of course not what im saying is that look you know by the time that europe progress then this path there was no will come for example or heart talk or somebody to make them into accountable so they are moving on their own piece but what we do is we dont want to move on that base we not have the time but we need you know the perseverance we need the assistance we need you know the good models and modalities and technology to help this country move along this maybe quicker faster but it might not happen in and 16 years this summer is you moving backwards to the mean you take the media which blossomed for a while after the taliban were overthrown 100 needier outlets have been forced to close as human rights put it here words which put it threats and abuse by government officials warlords and Security Forces together with devastating attacks by groups tied to the Islamic State the taliban and other insurgents all this have forced more than 100. 00 Media Outlets to close what do enormous step backwards and so it basically is is it is that systematic is the government policy that you know were clamping down on media no you know its not clamping down on the warlords either. We do believe we are in a fight we are in a war we are clamping down on the International Terrorists which is the enemy of all of the world but at the same time we are trying to reform our institution where we can reduce the power of the strong people the people that youve had in power president gandhi Abdullah Abdullah the chief executive what have they done theyve theyve completely set up a structure which is beset by divisions internal disagreements discord. Crisis group said political partisanship has permeated every level of the Security Apparatus undermining the command structures of the Afghan National defense and Security Forces so far from unifying the country these 2 figures have actually divided it even further for the benefit of their personal ambitions you see depends on which angle youre looking at that probably has a good reality prices who were looking at the from the mayor very sort of perfectionist angle yes you know we we have experience of the Companies Look governor governor lunatic to the opposite just give me an example of other National Unity government which has you know completed their terms the state us not think about what about games forever were looking at afghanistan and seeing their numbers have but then you have to put the prospect that we had libya you know going for this kind of election a divisive election was there we have 2 governments there we have syria which as you know you dont suppose about sort of. Talking about afghanistan you know taking talking in afghanistan in isolation will not help because you have to look at there to see how we are looking at the situation were looking at situation in afghanistan is this tense an institution where you have deflecting attention from whats going on in your country but it doesnt help to look at syria what im saying is youre not responsible for syria but crisis group also have a yardstick which is you know the half they have you know measures that look at this government this country is betting that better doing better than the other country so thats why im campaigning at the s. L. A National Unity government how this from problems there are 2 rival teams with the 2 different the no way of thinking about governance one i was a little bit more decentralized that i was the centralized government they came together actually to keep the state together and prevent they completely exist together when you having shooter between Government Forces and warlords who are supposed to be on the same side. But at the same time you know youre fighting an insurgency here the even if there wasnt an insurgency used to be a war with your own people as i said that depends we are in over these years fighting the taliban you still have your shootouts with your own people. I mean in a situation like afghanistan you know what do you expect you know what we say that you know the americans will say that you know we truly are men walk you know we fight terrorist off money the money. Divisions we have to isis there we have taliban you know the economy at work but the since then also we have people who want to keep the government weak so you know your government is free isnt it but their families weak so its and it fails and so it measures against prominent people who they could make an example of lets take the case of the former governor of punishing a province kerry mood inquiry and the arrest warrant was issued for him in the summer after multiple allegations that he sexually assaulted women when he was president of the countrys Football Federation why hasnt he been arrested and formally charged so he was is charged 70 years to be exact whereas if you know he was removed from his position as kisses now in the Attorney Generals Office probably he is not in the country and it incited me how many cases where Even International community has not helped us the suggestion from Human Rights Watch is that he continues to wield considerable influence among the police and other politicians and thats why he thats why i dont think he has an interest in that if you are still you could have seized his property couldnt you i think as attorney general i dont have that details but i can assure you that no he does not do we learn he had any power right now and cut the americans have criticized you in action in the strongest possible terms the ambassador john best said in june we call on the government of afghanistan to complete its investigation and ensure justice is served. Support of that investigation to the 10 part of that investigation we send even a team here to to meet fifa they went to germany even for those vials of this gentleman that youre using a 1000000. 00 but you know putting the interaction yes the you have a key is its can not its not like you know you. Have to collect ever then it has to be strong because its an International Case right now there are International Lawyers in this we cannot you know have an up or of justice in this case where later on some other courts will come against that so we take all the nor the diligence we send the legations of our attorneys in this country in the simplicity of issue an arrest warrant youve issued an arrest warrant now pick him up so the americans and so you see yourself even example you know how long itll take for the support of mr pitt the visa for this restaurant countries even time of this im talking about this football and the other talking this is a matter of the cold thinking or is simply scalars than who you are leaving no one talking about the same case because partly what is clear is a problem with the rule of law or due to a real problem exercising the rule of law you see yes you know we have problem with rule of law but but the exercise of rule of law requires and strong state and thats what we have to build you also have a big problem with torture and that is perhaps the worst aspect of your governments failure of the human rights front as in the torture by your Security Services and their affiliates time and again western agencies have reported the appalling treatment inflicted by your officials and local prisoners why do you so consistently fail to crack down on these disgraceful can you can you give me 6 on this because what as as far as i am here in the past 6 months in our records on this because we have recently joined the optional protocol of catheters convention against torture rousseau which are laws even the cases to be taken to a new course and it allows for the investigators to get into even our prisons i think that is. The most open part of this convention and the unanimous report i believe you know what im saying about your numbers latest report which is i wanted to put a that there is a reduction there a substantial reduction in the cases of this especially in oil and areas which was in the know in in the place you still have a 3rd of conflict related detainees alleging serious abuse including severe beatings electric shocks near suffocation and suspension from the ceiling for long periods and thats from your mamas latest report so what does all this say what does it say about you that you these practices continue year after year after year when their flag up year after year what im seeing is at the end of the really do we define it do look knowledgeable and look charge for the future to look at those the status ticks of your number which will tell you there is 27 person the reduction in the case of which is alleged torture and not encounter yes it can the including in kandahar latest report called the numbers tortured encountered staggering staggering it said this in facilities under the control of the Main Intelligence Agency group the National Directorate of security do you do you get this you government actually control this agency of course you do the film i do allow this question is staggering levels of torture in the latest you nama report when you see what the the question should not the problem is that we are a law and it is not like as the governor of texas is a stop bill doing Everything Possible kandahar was flagged up as a major torture center every year for at least 8 years what did you do with the reports but how to build boone on about how is the progress you just good deep into the reported it also is accurate as you begin a staggering something we understand the semantics you know the way you put this word but the discussion i had here with you know my human breast people in this office they told me that there is a substantial improvement in this case especially in kandahar this spoke with the commander of police of kandahar. And they assured them of every possible cooperation whos been overseers heres the test whos been held to a curb thats for accountability weve only seen minor disciplinary sanctions in the very few cases that were investigated and no compensation for victims despite a legal requirement in your country to provide that why why why nobody held accountable why no compensation there are they are held accountable maybe im sure in the case of the past you number of reports there have been people from the in the years and come the hope from the numbers that parliament is so i can give you the status quo same as this one and they continue to torture the lives i think its still using and if you live off scot free thats the fact that youre not really is the reason we already have the most open and valente polygynous these a view of the United Nation make a mess and so of human rights you know the protocols the optional protocol as the conventions and the treaty bodies so its like you know ive done this than have pledged to look we have a very open and transparent system of human rights yes there might be you know its not our commitment a 1000000 maybe you know there might be capacity problems there might be problems which is you know the local somewhere a local Police Escort you know conducting maybe does some of these crimes but its not lack of its happening filmmaker and jane intelligence director were not talking about local police just a few days ago you tweeted that the Afghan Government is fighting a complex unconventional asymmetrical war with enemies that dont adhere to International Humanitarian law you admitted to point your government doesnt adhere to International Humanitarian law the world no country has said recommit to every bit of child while our enemy you may not commit to it on paper but getting to your prisons you will see much of International Humanitarian law in all that not that i mean you can ask you can ask human rights. As you can i ask you now and see the how they