Im phil go welcome to the program at least 2 people have been killed in a shooting in the eastern german city of hala a Police Arrested one suspect and theyre looking for others who are thought to have fled the scene where the shooting occurred near a synagogue while services were taking place for yom kippur the holiest day in the jewish calendar there are reports of a separate incident at the kebab shop in holland now police say shots have also been fired in the town of landsberg thats about 15 kilometers away in a federal terrorism prosecutors have taken over the investigation and police warned the public to remain a lets. Take a closer look at where the synagogue shooting is reported to have happened this is the humboldt strasser and hollers the historical district general william forces and confirm that they have closed the citys royal way station until further notice. From 1st very system from g. W. Political correspondent to thomas spyro welcome thomas just walk us through whats happened today but what we know so far from the police in the city of how did that east germany a city of about 200000 people is that 2 people have been confirmed dead the police spoke of multiple shooters so they spoke about that in the plural right from the start so they knew that they were possibly dealing with more than one person and later they also said that they had been able to arrest one person what is unclear it was a doctor person arrested was one of the shooters or on the other hand was someone related to them in one way or another that has been the reaction from the police in the city of boston people as you said phil to stay indoors remain safe and try also and avoid any speculation about the motives there is also a political reaction from local authorities who have called a specific Emergency Committee in order to assist in the investigation they have also clearly stated that authorities in holly and in the surrounding region are on high alert thats the local political reaction and there has also been reaction on the federal level from called Spokes Person describing this as a terrible day and also asking people to follow indications by the police in. Finance stay with us lets hear from an eyewitness who was in the kebab shop when where one of the gunman launched his attack into you come up im on one i saw a man in a home and he was right outside a combat shop behind an old lady he was wearing an army uniform everything looked very militaristic he had a weapon in his hand in the mosque on. And it looked like he had a hand grenade of Something Else maybe a firecracker and he wanted to throw it into the shop. But it hit the door and exploded in front of the old woman with the huge bang then he came into the shop and opened fire. And everyone ran away shouting and screaming towards the staircase which was heading out the back of the shop. And i saw the entrance to the toilets where i hear and well everyone else tried to find a way out or even a window. And guessed it wasnt on the. On there was another loud explosion and a lot of shouting opposition that effect scotland by 20 and then suddenly grew silent. Enough before i rang the police they said i should stay in the toilet. I texted my family and my parents. Eventually i heard the Police Arrive they wanted to know if someone was there they secured the area i yelled out that i was there i held up my arms and they briefly search me and. Doesnt this i cant say a lot about the attackers nationality he could see was wearing a mosque but there were some gaps in it and im guessing it was a white guy based on that. The sun visor but im really not so sure because i was in a state of shock at the time. I can say that he was very determined to get into this particular combat shop. Everything happened so quickly in the 1st few seconds after he opened fire and everyone ran away right after that. I dont remember how long i was hiding in the toilet it probably wasnt longer than 10 minutes. But it felt a lot longer. I says to that he said. So no british reporter on this incident in eastern germany Political Correspondent tom sparrow is still with us brief brief description of of one of the suspects from a witness what else do we know well we know for example from the mayor of the town in lands but thats one of the places where there were reportedly another there was reportedly another shooting which is not far away from. That mess said that 2 of the suspects had hijacked a car and were on their way on the motorway to munich that hasnt been confirmed further by other authorities but probably police are trying to now find these other people involved we also know that authorities are going that there was more than one shooter right from the start they had spoken about possible shooters in the in the plural so the big question now is how many were involved what were the relationship between the different people involved and whether that person that was arrested something that also the police and how they confirmed what he is or her relationship was with the rest of those involved thats as far as the possible perpetrator. Then we also have obviously the side of the victims we still dont know much about about the victims have been a lot of speculation about the shooter exactly but we dont know much more about the 2 the 2 dead or whether there were other people injured as well. And this happened close to a synagogue in a Jewish Cemetery that was initially reported by germanys mass circulation. It was initially not confirmed by authority was it was only afterwards that a spokesperson told one of germanys News Agencies that the case had indeed happened close to a synagogue but that same spokesman was very clear to stress that there was no concrete evidence that the location of it had a direct relationship to the actual case so in other words authorities are still trying to investigate the motive behind the shooting and whether the fact they happened close to a synagogue was in any way important to them must part of the investigation thats what we know so far about the location of the incident stay with us sir thomas through pick up on the point about what police know or dont know local police have been briefing the press the latest developments lets listen to what that would say. We are. Told although we have at least 2 crime scenes one here on this street where one person was shot dead and one. Beyond the informant soon. We were told one perpetrator was on the run and this person was armed. We also got information there were possibly several perpetrators involved but we cant confirm that at this time. But there was at least one perpetrator. This person fled in a vehicle we followed that lead and this vehicle was stopped outside her house and the alleged perpetrator was taken into custody as. You put it so i dont totally confess to you know. Political correspondent or thomas but still with us too early to talk about a motive toms indeed its way too early to talk about a possible motive which by the way phil is not unusual in these kinds of situations authorities are normally very cautious when it comes to possible motives and that has to do with the fact that theyre still its still too early in the investigation what happens at the beginning when you 1st have the reports of a possible shooting or a possible security incident as they cordoned off zone that they try and talk to witnesses and try and put all the pieces together before they can actually give any concrete information about the possible motive one issue related to a possible motive is the fact that federal prosecutors have announced that theyre taking over the investigation these are federal prosecutors described as and terror prosecutors now it is still unclear whether there is a terrible here but they receive it is absolutely clear that authorities in the city of cards were the federal prosecutors based there that have taken up the investigation taking away from the local police the national 1st it is always 1st regional matter so dealt with dealt by with regional authorities and only if there is a suspicion that it could go further that it could have for example a terrible motive does that move to a higher level and it is taken. Over by federal prosecutors and this is the case in this incident in a thought hes already mentioning that federal prosecutors have taken the case and i leading the investigation so just to be clear because it is a bit of a confused picture were talking about 2 incidents in. A separate incident in a city some kilometers away this is long yes and thats what authorities are now trying to put together how these instances are related there is a lot of speculation as usual in particular on social media and thats what authorities have also been very clear asking people not to speculate not to talk to me about possible motives asking people instead to well stay indoors to follow the instruction by the police and basically also be cautious and cautious is also a key word when we talk about federal authorities because they have also been cautious when it comes to their reaction initially basically describing the case as a terrible case hoping that police will be able to arrest all those involved and also asking people as ive just said to follow instructions by the police in these particular cases when the situation is so fluid when you have a variety of places involved it is more and more important to try and avoid any speculation or any unconfirmed news and try and on the other hand focus on what police are revealing what police has revealed so far is that 2 people dead multiple shots possible shooters on the run and one person detained some of sparklers of course from the from the its very clear as thomas was just saying that police in hala in the east of germany say theyve arrested one person in connection with the shooting incident in the city before does indicate that the attack took place in front of a synagogue is like a closer look at where the incidents reported to have happened in the home about struggle and how this part of the street and today is your home could prove the most important religious holiday in the jewish Calendar Police have told residents in the city to stay in their homes the main road station has been closed until further notice. Lets take a look at the a rising art of the situation with your own son pierre hes a security and counterterrorism expert at the bottom Security Consulting group here in berlin so welcome to the program lets talk about the weaponry has been reported to have been used and also mastic weapon i dont know what talk about you know easy to come by you in germany theyre very difficult to come by here in germany its one of those things where you need to have a special type of license the monitoring the. Criteria to obtain such a weapon jim youre very very strict however the access to such a weapon on the black market is not its difficult but its not that difficult and so theres ample opportunity to get access to a weapon like this its not the United States its not other countries where its that easy its over the counter however the possibilities are there and what weve seen with if that is indeed a far right motivated is that in other countries in other cases as well is that very often the perpetrators of such attacks do have a security background whether it be military or police and you have to require license to use this from seeing this in france unfortunately a few times and so it does facilitate been the access to this type of weapon you know previous terror attacks here in germany against. People of the jewish faith have led to increased security outside the city go to a place of worship and this incident is said to outside a synagogue near to a Jewish Center absolutely and defocus is very much been on berlin on the big cities when you surprised in the future that were going to see more Police Presence in synagogues in main. Areas of jewish faith practices in germany and also in front of mosques very recently in germany there were a lot of. Investigations and. Raids conducted in areas because of threats made against mosques so i believe that were going to see an increase security presence not just in from synagogues but in front of mosques in other states as well and so just to be clear the mo its in germany it is it is quite normal to see Police Routinely standing guard outside synagogues absolutely its so you see they have those little huts or their cars down permanent permanently. 24 hour watch usually so yeah theres theres already a certain degree of attention paid to the safety and security of synagogues and again other jewish other areas of jewish faith in berlin and just certain areas in germany as well thats already a focus but its very difficult sometimes for one person also it becomes part of the routine you see the traffic come and go come down to the human factor and its on. And it looked like he had a hand grenade of Something Else maybe a firecracker and he wanted to throw it into the shop. But it hit the door and exploded in front of the old woman with the huge bang then he came into the shop an open fire. And everyone ran away shouting and screaming towards the staircase which was heading out the back of the shop. And i saw the entrance to the toilets where i hear. Everyone else tried to find a way out or even a window. That wasnt on that and. There was another loud explosion and a lot of shouting in that effect. Thats gotten on by 20 and then suddenly grew silent. Before i rang the police they said i should stay in the toilet because i just wanted to i texted my family and my parents. Eventually i heard the Police Arrive they wanted to know if someone was there they secured the area i yelled out that i was then i held up my arms and they briefly search me and. I was the midst of awkward. As i can say a lot about the attackers nationality because he was wearing a mosque but there were some gaps in it and im guessing it was a white guy based on that. Bus and vice of a but im really not so sure because i was in a state of shock at the time. And i can say that he was very determined to get into this particular combat shop. Schnare get everything happened so quickly in the 1st few seconds after he opened fire and everyone ran away right after that. I dont remember how long i was hiding in the toilet it probably wasnt longer than 10 minutes but it felt a lot longer. I says to that he said. No confirmation from the police yet that this was a terrorist incident though it is being investigated by a federal counterterrorism offices an investigator with us is that young son pierre who is a security and counterterrorism expert here lets talk about the Domestic Intelligence service which has been criticized recently as it improved well. Its been criticized for a variety of reasons especially for having a tunnel vision it would say its been criticized because it focused too long too much on islamic terrorism for example and neglected other types of threats like a right wing terrorism or far left domestic their domestic type of terrorism and the other hand the biggest problem that germany has and thats been the case for other western states as well is that theyve been playing catch up over the last 56 years when it comes to improving security measures related to terrorism because for a long time you know lack of staff lack of resources lack of money but people arent trained fast enough so in germany the standard is 3 years and theyre sticking to those 3 years meanwhile the gap is still growing so you can hire people you can and vest more money but if the technology and the people arent there at the right time and theres a reluctance for example to work with partners that could fill that gap then were dealing with were still playing catch up and as fast as the German Authorities want to work. Its very difficult to fill the gap with terrorist war historically speaking have always been the head of a. Lack of resources a lot of people get a raise that eyebrows here in germany one of the richest countries in europe with the world iraq of a lack of resources tend to indicate a lack of political priority over some reluctance theres absolutely that were. Talking really about political will here. Postwar germany is postwar history has created this reluctance toward Security Forces the structure of the federal system to mitigate the power of Security Forces. The fact that germany as a whole is a very secure country and its the fact that they have to deal with such threats in an increasing way would be from the far right for religious extremist groups over the last 45 years. Has confronted them with the need for it but the reluctance is still there and so were definitely talking about more about the will to to invest those resources rather than i do feel good if theres resources for us a good talking to thanks for joining us a young some peer from the Security Consulting group here in. This is d. W. I. News live from button will bring the latest information on the aftermath of the shooting and the investigations as we get them lets move on to other news down a turkish president has announced the start of military action in Northern Syria the president of the army had begun what he called operation peace spring against kurdish militants reports from the kurdish Led Syrian Democratic forces say ass trucks are being carried out and there is a huge party of people. Straight to turkey that correspond to your hands in istanbul welcome yulia bring us up to date. Well as you already mentioned the Turkish Operation in the north in syria has started and it was president ad on himself who announced it on twitter he wrote that they were going to destroy and are quoting here a tear or korean or and bring peace to the region that was the official announcement and soon after that we got the 1st news that turkish warplanes have been hitting bases of syrian white p. G. Fighters ammunition depots and also sniper positions so the attacks have started the Turkish Military has entered the Turkish Foreign minister is very keen on emphasizing that from his point of view this intervention this so operation is according to International Law turkish media here are a branding this is a security operation to est