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In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with a cold hard fact about winning political power no one is exempt from the risk of losing bet power and that is a lesson the populace appear to be learning the hard way following an example that was said in italy back in august voters in austria yesterday punished the countrys far right Freedom Party apparently for a Corruption Scandal involving the partys former leader its a pattern emerging here in europe and in the United States populist politicians who win at the ballot box are colliding with the institutions and rules of conduct that they trashed on their way to Campaign Victory breaking the rules as a candidate may have been the key to getting elected but breaking the rules in power well it remains the key to getting walked out more on that in just a moment but 1st we have this report from the film. After the postelection parties its time for some tricky negotiations to begin sebastien curts is now you looking for Coalition Partners the greens may be a viable option for him there re entering parliament after a surge in support and kids change the face of australian politics but would they want to. Get in a good space bit edge of the of course we greens are ready to talk but we can only come to the negotiating table if there is a shift when it comes to alki areas if we now have the responsibility to put austria at the forefront in climate protection putting an influential. If the greens joined a governing coalition it would be a 1st just a National Level but with so many other parties also in the frame the voters have mixed feelings about the overall results. And its a close up tick honestly its great you know exactly what i was hope. And im not curious about coalitions and what the Coalition Talks will bring its own funding impling in a little bit see well see with the greens really want to implement a green policy or with a just middling communists in galbraith i dont think the tree house plants the environment is a power is he and in my opinion and im not the only person to think that politics has nothing much to say nowadays only the economy matters being Sebastian Kurtz wants to be the challenges facing the economy front and center in coalition tall oaks the negotiations are expected to last several weeks if not months. Well my 1st guest tonight cautions that populace may be losing elections now but their base of support is not necessarily shrinking in her book popular ocracy in the tyranny of authenticity and the rise of populism catherine vs he argues that getting rid of populism is most difficult in societies where not telling the truth is already the lingua franca of politicians evan is the director of Global Policy institute at Queen Mary University in london she joins me tonight from london catherine welcome to the day your piece today in the guardian it caught our attention because you write that outright lying is the winning currency of the populace how does that apply in the case of austria where its believed voters punished the far right party due to a Corruption Scandal. So i think whats interesting about austria is that it is a Corruption Scandal and its not exactly the same kind of lying is that weve seen elsewhere one of the interesting things about it is that the f. B. I. Which is a far right party more than a Populous Party lets face it. Actually you know lost power was ejected from the coalitions trotta had to resign because of new elections and i think that there are 2 tud went down very poorly im im wondering im asking myself whether in fact you know if they had gone down really fighting rather than kind of you know abandoning the stage if you like whether they wouldnt have been a little bit more credible but i also think that we have to be careful in terms of austria one is that the coalition with the greens is not a given and we may its not for sure but we may be right back where we started with the f. B. I. Back into coalition and the 2nd thing you know about austria is that actually the real populists are actually the conservative party so you know who needs the f. B. O. When youve got the ovi you know doing the job well i mean its interesting i want to stay with this this idea of the of warring and how we can go a long way in politics is there a wall of diminishing returns are there democracies where there can be too much. Yes i think that you know the line obviously occurs in context and i think you know for example italy is a is a very good example the fact is that you know theres a long tradition of populism in italy and actually you know being luscombe lie as much as the need is has light and is lying its a context in which in fact lying is the currency so the thing about that is that you know you have to tell bigger and bigger lies in order to attract attention thats why populists lie right its because they do it in order to be seen to be lying theyre not covering things up really what theyre actually doing is saying you know look at look at the lengths were willing to go to in order to really speak their mind of the speak the mind of the people in the case of italy its its particularly interesting because its not that voters turned against the right of the overreach he gambled he lost right now hes in opposition in fact his Popular Support hasnt been dented so you know if there were to be another election in italy so he could very well be at 3538 percent he hasnt he hasnt lost out very much because its a context in fact where you know lying has currency but i think that there are other places and hopefully britain you know is one of them are actually lying will take you so far and you know you might like a bit of bombast but at one point theres actually a reaction from the institutions right larry a reaction from post let me ask you about that Boris Johnson the Prime Minister and the u. S. President. America the poster boys if you will of populism. Are they on a shorter leash when it comes to the untruths that they can tell them and get away with. I think theyre on a shorter leash once theyre in power i think this is this is absolutely right because the institutions do still have you know some leeway to do still have some credibility if you know if not with all voters certainly with a substantial amount of the voters so that actually would get into power in a place like the United States or a place like like the u. K. Where it tracks the disaffected voters the voters who want to you know who really want to stick it to the system if you like those are actually things that are much more difficult to wield once youre in power Donald Trumps had a pretty good run of it if somebody like Boris Johnson really hasnt you know done very well from it and actually the institutions of turns against him you know quite rapidly well how do you explain. The theres the impeachment proceedings which which have begun is we were talking about that today in the news room and the fact that this for many people represents the checks and balances that are working in the american democracy but at the same time donald trump has told new celt was countless untruths or lawyers to to become president and sounds president so what are we looking at here are we looking at a system that is balancing and calibrating itself or are we looking at a sick democracy. Well i think you know i think democracies are fragile theyre always in and also institutions you know learning to deal with this kind of with this kind of leader actually sort of in a sense it its almost as if they were sort of coming to their senses and thinking oh actually we can assert ourselves you know we can assert the primacy of the law and that certainly whats been done in the u. S. And whats being done in the u. K. I think we have to be very careful i mean i like to be like to be an optimist and see a kind of a reaction and limits put upon these these this kind of populist leadership and were seeing some of that in europe as well at the level of european institutions where these institutions are starting to find a way to deal with with this populism but i am not entirely sure that this means that you know i think that this can contain it i think that we can in a sense of liberals or pluralist learn to roll with the punches but its also true that what these institutions are doing will also in a sense galvanize the base for some of these leaders and you know were seeing it here in in the u. K. That you know what is being done the Supreme Court ruling last week you know are being interpreted by a lot of the you know of the a lot of the hard core base as the trail collusion you know the language is extremely violent you know theres a sense in which the populous of copula supported popular base you know are really being sidelined i think we have let me just pick up on that the violence you know wine is one thing but appealing to inciting violence is another. Johnson and theyve both been accused of doing i mean are we looking at a system where the bullies who when theyre pushed to the wall use their fists are they the ones who are going to win. And i think that what they do and they dont exactly use these expressions in these tools in the same way i think what theyre doing is essentially signaling to the base i think when such leaders are have their backs against the wall theres no necessary theres not necessarily one single recipe what Boris Johnson is doing is stoking the politics of outrage and he knows that by doing that and hes were probably not very far from an election here as well hes creating more polarizing and hes using extremely divisive language and this is a way to actually solidify his base i dont think that it is necessarily you know billed as an incitement to hatred i think some of what donald trump has done is certainly you know in terms of you know the racism and you know the calls for people to go home for the Law Corruption and all of that that is actually much more i think a call to violence its almost all to arms catherine fascinating discussion with you catherine please come back to the day lets lets talk to catherine author of the book population of the tyranny of authenticity and the rise of populism catherine thank you very much. Thank you. Turkish president richard pipetta one wants a new safe zone in northeastern syria and there is one big reason why he wants a place to repatriate Syrian Refugees are one wanted to establish that zone by today the last day of september but his government in the us they seem to have different ideas about how big the zone should be everyone says hell act alone if theres no agreement the Syrian Refugees in turkey say some are already being deported back home to areas including the north which according to them are far from say our correspondent youll yohan met a woman who says that her son was sent back against his will. Mohammed has been gone for almost 2 months. When all financial thinks about what happened to her son she feels helpless lost. In early August Mohammed was riding a friends motorbike in istanbul the bike was unregistered mohammed was stopped by police and then sent to a Detention Center that he lost i dont know i wasnt normal about 12 days later i got a call from mohamed afore he said theyve taken me to syria to italy that was his last phone call i havent heard from him since i didnt let him im not a mom have rhymes are not broken when me fled from syria he was still a small child. Now they have sent him back to that place removed not i dont know where he is still. Istanbuls fattish district is an area where many syrians live many here of heard that the turkish authorities have been deporting refugees in recent months and most of them are afraid that they could be next. Thats when they started sending people back i was so scared i didnt leave my house with. The imam but they already have and there are more restrictions on us now people are being deported back to syria but we cant escape turkey for europe anymore because its too dangerous a new. Group started to do a lot yeah i really dont it was and we syrians used to feel welcome here in rio we learned its changed a little bit and are only now we feel like unwanted migrants again. Turkey has taken in more refugees from syria than any other country more than 3600000 people in the space of a few years hundreds of thousands live here in istanbul theyve set up stores of breast wrongs theyve tried to build new life while Turkish Society initially responded with more marketable resilience hospitality is now rapidly wearing fit. To cross is both around see if more of them come i dont want to live in this neighborhood and in this country anymore. Its me. But i get along very well with most of the syrians here there are some bad people but you get that everywhere you go and i guess we want them to leave as soon as possible we dont want them here anymore because the children turkish president. Has recognized this change in public sentiment in the past few weeks he has made repeated promises that millions of syrians will return home to a socalled safe zone that he wants to establish in the north east of syria. But the government insists the deportations are not taking place and that syrians who are returning are doing so voluntarily. The mare chatter goes disagreeing is the lawyers trying to help get off the racial son back from syria mohammed and his family have valid turkish documents and protection status checkers has filed an appeal with turkeys constitutional court. Sending a person to a war zone as a serious human rights violation this mohammed is not an isolated case little for this is happening to many syrians many have been deported in recent months some of the other alone the last of the lawyers says that many deported syrians attempt to return to turkey making a 2nd escape from their war torn country illegally and often a high cost of paying a lot of money to smugness and as dangerous as that might sound. I know how meds mother ofa is clinging to any hope that she might see her son again in safety. Books weigand is in court here in germany to face charges related to the diesel gate to missions scandal the Class Action Lawsuit the 1st of its kind in germany is being brought by more than 400000 drivers who were seeking compensation for purchasing vehicles with devices that allow the car maker to cheat on Environmental Emissions test. The scandal has already cost votes y. And over 30000000000. 00 worldwide. Im joined now here at the big table by my colleagues you know to molly on she is from our business dismissed talk about this Class Action Lawsuit developing how much are we talking about well this is a very big deal also be given its historic nature like you said there this is the 1st Class Action Lawsuit that germany has ever seen it had to be preceded by a change in the law to even happen but how much of flights will end up paying and domage as if the court finds against fox fung thats less clear at the beginning of what happens to be what promises to be a very long process and on the 1st day the judge was quick to dampen hopes of us style of damages being awarded indeed the now those the 30000000000 euros that fox has already spent on these will get related damages that has ended up going mostly towards affected u. S. Consumers and theres there doesnt seem to be a big indication that that will be replicated here in germany and there are several issues at play here now the for citing judge said that you cant really pin down for breach of contract because the contract of sale happened between dealerships and the individual buyers of these cars were secondhand so where would you go about now in order to claim damages buyers would have to prove what they lost and the courts then have to decide how much reduced resale value matters how much it matters that there are these old driving bands you know theres a lot of extra math in all of that thats thats for sure but isnt there an irony here i mean votes like yours in the diesel gate scandal right now is going to have to pay up at the same time its leading the world into what you cars is going to have what the 1st card to come out for the masses in europe in 2020 next year the id 3 indeed and it has been part of a strategy to rehabilitate themselves and there is some irony in this because a lot of that money that they were able to that they were able to earn all these years and its been a lot of money its been that connect with so you know were taught to become the number one of the number one car maker in the world so its been a position to make these mega investments intellectual ability 20000000000 euros by 2030 and thats on top of the damages its had to pay for diesel an investor will have to see if that investment pings off you know as always thank you. 30 years ago thousands of east germans fleeing communism made their way to prague heading for the west German Embassy there you know they intended to use that embassy as a jumping off point if you will to cross into the west and that gamble paid all well 30 years later some of them have been retracing their steps to freedom. And jenny back in time. 30 years ago. Traveling in a train just like this one. Like reliving it all over again. Back then sunder was one of thousands of refugees fleeing east germany they travelled in special trains from prague to the west but to get there they had to pass through east german territory where they feared theyd be arrested. In order to keep memories of those journeys alive some of the people who made those trips then of doing it again. They all left east germany that way. After several tense weeks in the west German Embassy in prague. It was in september 1989 east germans were poor and into the embassy the building was quickly overwhelmed. Many ended up camping out in the Embassy Grounds it was cold. Sanda spent 3 weeks here with his wife and 2 children new arrivals came in over the fence every day. For them. It never stopped raining the cut down board so you didnt have to walk through the mud the. Tents wherever they could find a space where you can match was the tents were all crowded up against one another. And. Then the fateful moment on the 30th of september west German Foreign minister hans de trish kensho arrived speaking to the refugees from the balcony his announcement that they could leave was drowned out by cheers oh. Oh. Oh. Oh oh oh. I cant ship promised that everyone in the embassy would be allowed to go to the west stand it was that and hurt him. While he was standing right here. At. This. But. Its all coming about israel. That same night santa and his family left the embassy and boarded the train to west germany. He thought he was or it was a very emotional journey of a shift a very difficult ordeal they say it would show for us. It was a train to freedom. Cool just a few weeks later the citizens of east germany gained their freedom cool november 9th 1989 and will came down. 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