Here and he stopped the Peace Process saying he doesnt care about. Them and the last 4 days we have hit our enemy harder than they have ever been hit before. The twin towers and the incident is still being remembered here innocent people get killed. No one cares about it who remembers them are they not humans will go wherever they are and use power the likes of which the United States has never used before our only hope was peace which was. Also coming up a w. News special report on the never ending nightmare for roy hinge a women refugees who left everything behind to escape violence in myanmar now in bangladesh theyre being forced to sell the only thing they own their bot. But theres no other job i can do like that i cant do anything else than i thought remarry my new husband would take care of me but not my children. Went to our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all the round the world welcome we begin the day with the United States marking the 911 terror attacks it is an event that 18 years on is beginning to take its place in the history books while slowly losing its place in our collective memory and with that the danger of mis remembering the past is growing now the 911 attacks led to the war in afghanistan which today rages on and has become americas longest war troops from germany and the u. K. Who remain in the country on a nato mission and recent peace talks between the u. S. Of the taliban were called off by u. S. President trott now these are all facts of recent history whats a day at the pentagon u. S. President from he veered sharply from the facts of 911 when he implied that the taliban had sent terrorists to bring down the twin towers 911. 00 the deadliest attack on american soil since pearl harbor was carried out not by the taliban but by al qaida terrorists which you take a listen to part of what the u. S. President said today. We had peace talks scheduled a few days ago i called them off when i learned that they had killed a Great American soldier from puerto rico and 11 other innocent people they thought they would use this attack to show strength but actually what they showed is unrelenting week this the last 4 days we have hit our enemy harder than they have ever been hit before and that will continue and if for any reason they come back to our country we will go wherever they are and use power the likes of which the United States has never used before and im not even talking about Nuclear Power they will never have seen anything like what will happen to them. While on this 911 anniversary im joined tonight by Christopher Callender an Afghanistan War veteran who also involves both the obama entropic administrations on afghanistan and he is credited with being one of 2 people who open communications that lead to peace talks with the taliban he is currently an adjunct senior fellow at the center for a new American Security and he joins me tonight from milwaukee wisconsin mr callender welcome to the day i want to ask you how do you read what the u. S. President said today at the pentagon about the taliban did he conflate the taliban with al qaida. Well it certainly seems and i want to begin by just you know my heart goes out to all the people who have been affected by 911 both the event itself 18 years ago as well as the aftermath to endless wars as as president from calls and to include all those veterans from afghanistan i was talking with. A person yesterday who is with Deutsche Bank on september 11th 2001 in manhattan right across the street from 911 and from the towers as he you know describe for me the events of that and its absolutely searing. Its important you know that theres a difference between the taliban and i dont negotiate ations with al qaeda not possible negotiations with the taleban are possible but as weve seen very very difficult you have invested a lot of time in getting talks with the taliban up and running and you did that under both president s obama and President Trump id like to hear your thoughts on the u. S. President inviting the taliban to camp david i mean did you know the trump had extended that invitation. No and look im not a u. S. Official any longer the the work that i did in 272800 to try to help get this current round of talks going was as a as a private citizen not as a as he was government official. I mean it does seem a bit odd. To put it lightly to invite the taleban to camp david premature you know maybe after a a lot of confidence is built after a cease fire after there are have been extensive negotiations in afghanistan and it changed environment to include the taleban pronouncing their ties to al qaida and and now see very clearly that al qaeda that al qaeda or any other terrorist organization is unwelcome in afghanistan. And theyve made similar declarations on human rights and follow through with those things and making credible commitments keeping them then maybe you have a situation in which the Peace Process has advanced as a state in which you would have some sort of meeting on on us but its really premature and quite frankly you know the reaction from both sides of the political spectrum in the United States has been radioactive what did you think when drunk declared those talks to be dead are they really dead well the door is closed but its not locked at the end of the day youve got a situation in which youve got a strategic stalemate as long as the Afghan Government maintains International Support the taliban are not going to be able to overthrow the government converse lee as long as the taliban maintains external sanctuary and sufficient internal support indigenous support in afghanistan its not going to be decisively defeat and so we are in that situation on its. You know 2 weeks ago when were still in that situation today its unlikely to change so you know really youve got 2 options for ways for one is you can try to keep u. S. And nato troops indefinitely in a landlocked country that surrounded by Hostile Force and have you know and they end with an Afghan Government thats having it very difficult time dismantling the kleptocracy and undermining a its just a miss in the ice afghans. Or you can you can pursue a Peace Process but we mate were likely to take a different approach. In a Peace Process in the future this time we went for the big deal and im sure there are a lot of reasons going for the big deal we elected not to use a more deliberate step by step approach to build confidence which historically has much better track record so mike my advice would be that if were going to when its talks resume and they should we need to take a very different approach both the United States taleban the Afghan Government need to take a very different approach to this and move in a more a step by step incremental process that builds confidence builds in the talks over time and then i think you are have the potential to see some very significant. Id like to play a clip for you mr callender its from july of this year and its the u. S. President saying what he could do to afghanistan if he really wanted to take a listen i have plans on afghanistan that if i wanted to win that war afghanistan would be wiped off the face of the earth it would be god it would be over in literally in 10 days. Now when you hear the president saying that strickland kin you imagine these peace talks being revived as long as President Trump is president well its going to take some strategic leadership on all sides of this conflict to to resume these talks i think its going to take a much more sensible approach to these talks me clearly just getting a bunch of people around a room in secret in doha trying to hash out some sort of deal is its not going to work. And this is. Feel could have been potentially destabilize. You here invariably in a situation where you can either resume peace talks and try to gain a successful outcome from this war through peace and quite frankly from the United States nato perspective if afghanistans no longer a platform for International Terrorism and ideally if it if afghanistan is a place where the rights of all afghans and women and children included are respected then thats quite frankly a successful outcome for the United States and and nato for the taliban a successful outcome to them is no more International Combat troop presence so thats entirely possible as well so youve got a situation where the objectives of one another in this case u. S. Nato on one side taleban on the other side. You know theres no disagreement in terms of the outcome now but im just theres disagreement you get there with the Afghan Government forces are. Going to ask you i mean how do you reconcile those to the Afghan Government wants to respect womens rights for example and we know that the telly theyre not known for doing that at all so are they going to change a fundament of their thinking or can these 2 opposing ideas be expected to live in peace to to coexist in afghanistan peacefully. Right well when you look at actual behaviors you see a much more mixed picture than than than what youve presented of course on the ground in afghanistan and this is exactly what a confidence building approach is important that all sides. The u. S. And nato the Afghan Government and the taleban need to demonstrate that they can make it to and maintain credible commitments that lead step by step towards reductions in violence and ultimately tossed towards a political settlement in afghanistan let me ask you about former National Security adviser john bolton he is now out of the picture we know that he was opposed to the president inviting to tell the bomb to camp david but he was no friend to peace talks at least publicly did you feel that you were in a battle against john bolton when you were working to set up and to make these these talks work. Well bolton was not the National Security advisor at that time it was i mean was it uphill that look theres a lot of impressions about the taliban some are accurate some are not accurate. You know in terms of whether they you know they are willing to engage in a Peace Process and part of you know part of our effort was to was to try to identify them and and have the taliban do things that would suggest that they were willing to talk acts such as their february 14th letter to the American People asking for talks and then the i mean a big breakthrough came when president gandhi and general nicholson announced a cease fire over it all theater in june of 2017 they invited the taliban to do the same the taliban said they would do it to a 3 day cease fire and and they made that announcement and for 3 days or they eat a holiday if there was no violence in afghanistan at least you know no taleban on Afghan Government violence and it really open peoples eyes and tell upon it much greater sense of command control then than many of the skeptics gave them credit for and so that was a key at a point in and convincing the trump and ministrations to you know to at least try a Peace Process and as a set i think the door is closed right now but the strategic situation is unlikely to change in the near future or it or over the mid term and so forcefully the door is not locked and i think i think youll see a resumption of talks here at some point and hopefully theyll take a different trajectory than than this one christopher kalinda joining us tonight from milwaukee wisconsin mr bill and if we appreciate your valuable insights on the situation with the United States and afghanistan and the taliban thank you thank you its been a pleasure thanks for having brought. Well theyve fled deadly violence theyve become refugees in a foreign country and now theyve been forced into prostitution they are among the 700000 or hinge of refugees now living in sprawling camps in bangladesh their lines are already grim refugees are not allowed to work and they depend on food handouts and some women there have turned to the sex industry others are lured abroad with promises of jobs in marriage only to end up in prostitution d. W. Has this exclusive report tonight from the bangladeshi city of cox is bizarre. In the Worlds Largest refugee camp in bangladesh the life for women and children is particularly difficult. This woman fled from me and ma with her 3 children and husband after their village was burnt down 2 years ago. My husband left me and my children after we came here and it was difficult for me to make ends meet i didnt have any other option and i want to live. Any other option that is going to work as a prostitute now when she gets the cool she travels to the neighboring towns outside of the refugee camps. There is no other job i can do i cant do anything else if i remarry my new husband will take care of me but not my children. That its impossible to say how many reading the refugees end up in the sex trade here many as young as 14 according to a local engineer thousands of women are trafficked across bangladesh and even abroad lured by false promises of jobs and marriage. We wanted to gauge how widespread the problem really is in the tourist town of cox bizarre roughly 40 kilometers from the camps we got in touch with a pimp who posted to have several rango women on call. Hello. Show you some girls and if you like them you can take them if not you can leave. Oh ok see you in an hour. A bit later a reporter meets the man at a prearranged point and gets into an auto rickshaw with him while we. Followed behind a reporter secretly filming the entire encounter. The 1st stop is a hotel which serves as a brothel to begin with the manager seems suspicious and denies having any prostitutes then he shows us pictures of a few women on his phone none of them seem to be wrecking. Around 10 pm the pimp sends a rectangle woman to our hotel shes too scared to talk to us when we reveal were journalists because shes worried the hotel might tell the pimps but she confirms she is a 23 year old wrecking a refugee she says shes a victim of her circumstances. Back at the camp the sex worker we met earlier tells us threatening are not allowed to work and there have been several police raids on hotels doubling as brothels she herself was recently released from jail. The us and the now adding that if i cant find any other way to make money ill have to go back to this work if i do i might get arrested again. But shes likely to take that risk again because for now she doesnt have a choice. And faced with such a bleak future bridging the women remain easy prey for the pimps and traffickers. It is a never ending nightmare for the origins of women im joined here at the big table by my colleague no me conrad she was one of the reporters on that story and lets talk about one of these sex workers that you talked to she said that she had no other way of making money so talk to me. She said desperate that shes willing to sell her body. The situation in the camp is pretty bad the refugees you know they they need food handouts they need humanitarian aid thats all they have theyre not allowed to work so its not as if they have any other options when you go into the camps the situations going to die on us and small shops which a tolerated by the authorities but even that is illegal so there really isnt very much for women to do in the woman in this case her husband divorced she was alone with 3 kids the youngest was 3 years old and she felt she didnt really have a any other choice theyre not going to work because the bangladeshi authorities dont allow them to words or has there been a response from the saudis to this report. Not directly to this report we obviously talked to the authorities and the have been the has been a crackdown there have been a several police raids i mean its also interesting to note that prostitution itself is legal in bangladesh this is one of the few muslim countries where its legal if youre over 18 to work in the register a brothel but for the refugees its illegal because theyre not allowed to work as i said before so even just leaving the camp unless thats a medical emergency and you have a pass to go to the hospital is illegal of course people are desperate find means and ways when you drive to these camps well these Police Checkpoints so the the authorities are trying to crack down but obviously its difficult i mean even if prostitution is legal in bangladesh were still talking about a health risk for these women sexually transmitted diseases for example so how is it being dealt with of course and hiv is a problem too i mean weve talked to an engine that works with sex workers and theyre trying to raise awareness theyre trying to get women to use condoms for example with their clients but its very difficult this is a very conservative society its difficult to talk about certain things and yes there is a health risk and we dont know but its quite likely that sexual sexually transmitted diseases are in fact spreading you were reported highlights traffic across. Bangladesh and abroad i mean what more can you tell us about how this trafficking works and how it thrives its a huge problem i mean were talking about potentially thousands of young girls some of them as young as 1314. 00 who by false promises sometimes i mean the promise jobs in malaysia will even just marriage in malaysia and then often end up in prostitution and sometimes its the whole family that tries to get money to pay for these girls trip to malaysia unbowed its very dangerous its a lot of the capsize people die during the voyage thats of a dangerous journey and i think its you know its a sign of how desperate the conditions are you and