But your system doesnt know and thats announced what you said before coalitions any in war times Political Parties have united in a Coalition Government which is the normal procedure in practice in europe and around the world that maybe we have steering in this sort of a crisis situation but if you look back if its not the leader of the labor not called inputs its comes out of it out of the dark or of the right and forms this and that we need in this crisis situation a Coalition Government is specially if you look at the industrial economic consequences of what is happening after no deal bracks it all breaks itll well see the country will suffer the Common People will lose money and the money which is in the city the financial hotspots of europe is going to go away. Were going to take a closer look at that as well but let me stay with the point about unscrupulous politicians and what they mean within the kind of political system that britain does have serious referred i think in your very 1st answer to some of johnsons advisers in practitioners of the dark arts i assume you were referring to mr cummings and maybe you can tell us a bit about what youre bent yes so so Dominic Cummings is Boris Johnson special advisor and he has. Become quite a big name amongst obviously in british politics for many years but also amongst the British Public because a lot of finger pointing is going on at that coming saying that hes the man responsible for a lot of this he was the man behind the vote believe campaign back in 2016 for the referendum that campaign succeeded that is why the u. K. Is leaving the you and everybody many people thought that that wouldnt be possible but he turned it round his way is to make bricks it happen and he has the man behind Boris Johnson making sure that breaks it happens using the phrase this is what the people voted for back in 2016 this is democracy so you talk about is Boris Johnson being on democratic well they will say no we are doing what the will of the people called for back in 2016 and this is democratic doesnt cummings i myself have had some some dealings with him the 1st time i met him i had ive not she even know who he was but i had been interviewing the cabinet minister Michael Goves who he then what for i had offered him a couple of questions that michael gove didnt like and he told me he didnt like them he walked away and suddenly the 3 men came towards me one of them was Dominic Cummings who swore at me and told me i was a whatever journal. Absolutely furious told me i couldnt use this interview. Which was then used and so so then say saying you know everything is happening with him swearing at m. P. s on the phone were hearing about including the rebels marching out an advisor to the chancellor thats the finance minister because apparently she wasnt toeing the line. All the stories that we are now hearing is very much well well certainly i experience some of it but what we have known in westminster for many years and he has one aim and that is to get over the line so that cummings was part of the mystery to read that essentially created a red pro Live Campaign for the referendum that was based on lies we heard that in our report as well. Certainly Boris Johnson has shown himself to be perfectly willing to resort to lies from time to time to get what he wants is he to be believed now john when he says that he can get a better deal out of brussels this is one of the things that he has been saying to sort of. Swayed concerns that. Britain could wind up in a no deal situation hes been saying look im on the right track i can get a deal there is no evidence whatsoever that hes on the right track this was a question that came from a labor leader corbin in all of the debates earlier in the week. Could you show us some proof of how these negotiations are working out and crucially can you show us how youre going to solve the northern border question because Boris Johnson keeps on attacking the socalled northern parts that was basically the system to prevent there being a whole of border and island off the brakes it and thats been so the Crucial Point where Boris Johnson said were not going to agree to anything with an open it says ok so if youre making progress show us just bluffed he had nothing to say there is no evidence whatsoever hes just trying to threaten the e. U. You know he is not going to the e. U. With any sort of sensible and worked out proposals i mean you are sitting there going well what we make of this how do we possibly deal with someone like that whos essentially trying to threaten us rather than negotiate with for just him and now speaking as a german looking at this situation and also with an incoming head of the e. U. Commission who is herself a former german politician what do you think how much leeway and how much political will is there in brussels to try to find a different solution for the socalled irish backstop i do think there still is. A portion of goodwill in brussels not to have the situation deteriorating and. Voices in brussels saying maybe we were not totally corresponding to Prime Minister may at the time ever she wanted to get it through the house we could have been more generous and so i think even with dunson on the other side if there is something russian along the way we could just i mean is there any real opening if you look at the law here we have a very clear law that any change in irelands border stoutest must be agreed by the irish people that is law how can brussels possibly offer anything different than what has been negotiated so that i mean there are always ok no question but so solutions which have been discussed in there because what everybody i dont know about mr johnson but the rest of the civilized world in but not once is a restart of the Irish Catholic and protestant Northern Ireland the troubles as it was cold and everybody is very happy we have the good friday agreement of the city years ago and stick to that i mean even johnson could be very very careful to check if that comes out out of his his proceedings that this piece is broken and remember its free of all 5 months ago they were the 1st. Killed somewhere in this context is that starts again this is the end and i mean having coming with 100. 00 other of whatever they are they had no undue the peace between Northern Ireland and the republic i mean this is no way that he would disagree with you to a certain extent like i personally take that point of view and i think playing with with the Peace Process norman is a dangerous thing but ultimately london has not paid adequate attention to the problems of the Northern Ireland issue right since before the referendum and actually just kind of it just stays there. On the other divide and so ultimately its not been adequately dealt with now for more than 3 years and so therefore the sticks the key questions of dealing with the new of the modern border issues still remain unresolved and so ultimately thats what Boris Johnson has not understood the cultural schools to brussels to say get rid of the bike stop until hes got a workable proposal to replace it with something thats not been forthcoming so now lets talk again about timing these new bills that have been passed by the parliament this week which essentially put off the deadline for the bracks it decision until the end of the year is there any chance that a different agreement no matter what political constellation we wound up with whether or not Boris Johnson stays that a new different agreement could be negotiated by then they just kicking the can down the road once more well this is the problem isnt it because if they are kicking the can down the road which im sure many im brussels will be looking at and thinking if we do give the u. K. Another extension what is it full a key question what was quite interesting when this bill which was passed the house of commons the moment still has to as were speaking still has to get through the house of lords though were expecting that to happen and then theres the queen for that for roll a sense of to be signed off what was postes through an amendment to say a change to this little that was included within the last hour to reason mays withdrawal deal to be put back to parliament this is the deal that was voted down 3 times in parliament could possibly could we see it coming back and that being a way for parliament to behave to vote a lot to get an m. P. s ok not those. Who cannot vote for the backstop but for other m. P. s to say this is better than a no detail there is. The possibility is can you tell me what the british people make of all of this what are you hearing from family and friends this week. There are 2 components to this 1st is the British Population is generally sick of this argument right they want to solution theres this kind of how if we still wont solve this thats one component to it give us a solution and indeed politicians are playing with that Boris Johnson said like if you dont want to have to hit the brakes a tiny more than give me my deal will give you my majority but on the other side the population is also still very divided right the general population is a little bit more program main than it was at the referendum. In them pinion polls theres a small majority of remain these days but the population is still very divided into 2 camps theres no be much move since the since the referendum so this is a. Summit up still splits and role of the joy of kind of had enough of this argument but just because theyve had enough of the argument doesnt mean we should still to stop talking about it or stop trying to seek Political Solutions certainly for detail and what we do see from the polls is an enormous mistrust and actually discussed with the politicians in london so how do you think that would play out if snap elections do wind up being held because course of course labor has said if this bill goes through if it is passed by the house of lords then they might be prepared to agree to snap elections how would you expect that to play out in in an election this distrust of politicians in general is the 100000 pound question nobody knows what is going to come out of it and whether the public is so fed up with it and maybe even go to have a bit of participation in voting which is gunned down to 42 percent or something but as we just heard that theyre fed up with it but. Nobody knows what is in the heart of the voters whats going to come out and my optimistic believe coming back britain has gone through a lot of crises not seem so spectacular what happened when no t. V. Was around 100 years ago or 200 years ago but i still believe that at the end of the day if the rubbish is choky on the street and that then someone comes up and that we need to read solution and i am the one who going to need it he could identify them and most someone out of the tory ranks someone else when that will set up with his boys dungeon. Sorry i just want to bring in our last very short report here and then and then ill come to you alex but certainly if a snap election is held the economic consequences of a bracks it with or without a deal are absolutely going to be at front and center of the debate in the past weeks we have seen a dramatic fall in the value of the pound and experts say that could just be the beginning of the economic problems that will result if forced johnson carries through on his policies lets take a look. The u. K. Leaving the e. U. Would damage the economies of both former partners but the british people would be most affected experts believe the u. K. Could descend into chaos as food and medication prices spike and possibly become short in supply european businesses are likely to retreat and the london stock market and british pound could crash the ports along the china facing endless lines of trunks waiting to enter a huge blow to the economy but you companies and especially export heavy german industrial corporations also risk losing billions all the u. K. And the e. U. Careering towards a recession. So alex remainders will undoubtedly be marshalling all of those arguments if in fact britain does wind up going to the polls where do you think were going to be on say november 1st and i have to ask for a quick answer because were almost at the itself. I think there was still a very high possibility that there was a note set on october the 31st that is not ruled out there are still many things in play that have to be played out before it stops but there still be a british Prime Minister johnson on october 31st. Oh its a difficult one i think so at the moment i think that there will be dont hold me to it if you tell anybody you think where we had it. I dont believe in the snap election i do think that brussels might offer another period of 3 months to negotiate if that is being discussed and well stick to what ive said before out of the muddled someone that well were not going to run the country down someone has to take the banner and bring us back to sanity sounds like. A lot of optimism there how about you john worth on 1st in november thats the day of the brits miss due to have left britain will not yet have left and will have secured an extension from the European Union to be in the European Union at least until january 2020 movie in the middle of an Election Campaign which is incredibly fiercely fought probably to take place sometime in november so Boris Johnson will be fighting for his political life up against an opposition that is trying to unify against his predecessor clams and so 1st of november we dont know whether it will yet be end of or strong somebody might be on the way. Id love to invite you all back for a 2nd round of the discussion after november 1st but if i did wed be discussing under another name than quadriga because ladies and gentlemen quadriga now ends with this show but the debate here at g. W. 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