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DW The Day July 14, 2024

A look to those critics but of a total exoneration if you actually totally exonerate the person. The doctors the doomsday has the glooms to our investigation found that the russian government interfered with our election in sweeping systematic fashion that we prepare for the remote possibility the brussels refuses any to negotiate this deserves the attention of every american and were going to fulfill the repeated promises of tolerance to the people that the president was not in sculpting. Exculpated. For the actions he allegedly committed and come out of the e. U. To look terrible the 31st new waves or bought city you could charge the president and states with obstruction of justice after he left office yes. Also coming up tonight this weekend berlin will hold its annual gay pride parade with tens of thousands of cheering on lookers a stark contrast to what a. Happened last weekend in one polish town when people tried to march for the very 1st time. Its a form of protest about free speech l g b t optimists are allowed to speak out on their views people who hold different views must be allowed to do the same there is an attempt to force Political Correctness here in poland. But to our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with british Prime Minister boards johnson and us President Donald Trump chaos and disruption are their allies tonight the world found out if it did not already know who is not in london today Boris Johnson shook the hand of the queen and then took over leadership of the government from to resume a in front of his new home at number 10 downing street he held his 1st speech as Prime Minister a pep talk for the british people who he says have been led by forces at home and abroad to doubt themselves and with that a line was drawn between patriots versus the pessimists now johnson who helped lead the campaign to take the country out of the European Union today promised to deliver brechts it in just 3 months he wants to do what theresa may failed to do in 3 years a Mission Impossible with a blame but if october 31st a no deal breaks it becomes reality johnson today signaled clearly it will not be his fault. Now i say next to our friends in ireland and brussels and around the e. U. I am convinced we can do a deal without checks at the irish border because we refuse under any circumstances to have such chips and get without that anti democratic backstop and it is of course vital at the same time that we prepare for the remote possibility the brussels refuses any further to negotiate and we all fools to come out with a deal not because we want that outcome of course not not because it is only common sense to propound there you have it Boris Johnson pointing the finger at europe we have complete coverage of this momentous day in british politics in here in the studio with me is john words hes a british and european politics auger and an analyst hes a familiar face to our viewers good to have you here john and joining us from london is barbara venal shes been on the story for us there from the british capital to both of you welcome barbara let me begin with you and with i guess the take away from johnson speech about bragg said that part should European Union leaders should they be preparing for a friend or a foe in this new Prime Minister. Oh he is very clearly if they know when that even before he held the speech if you look at the message which was quite pointed at that french president not from yesterday sent to Boris Johnson in the 2nd part after the Congress Relations he said that whole make the whole much treasured reason made because she was always fair and always understood that deal had to both sides and she never really tried to obstruct the workings of the European Union so there was a warning to Boris Johnson theyve where we very well know on the other side of the channel who is going to come to the negotiating table there and of course also if before you have even sort of take a seat at the table if you are just threats start with those dark warnings about a hard. Yes the blame will be on brussels everybody is expecting of course the blame game but if you start that early with it it means i was serious really are you if you talk about negotiating you know thats very good point john what do you think divorce johnston today did he issue with threat to the e. U. He did. What barbara said the problem is its unclear what he actually really wants he keeps on hammering on about these problems with the Northern Ireland by so but he has no practical plan of what to do instead which he also said today was undemocratic which doesnt make sense only that because ultimately the bikes for peace essentially to ensure that there is no border in Northern Ireland between Northern Ireland and. So ultimately i see this is him playing to. His tory party backbench is playing to the crowd of the conservative Party Members and i do think however he is shaping up to play the blame game and i could get quite difficult from brussels if you just goes into into everything that way take a listen to what johnson said today about a new deal breaks and the money he says maybe could be saved. But it is the cools on which this country is not with hard hearts and growing. Coproduce we will not celebrate the work of getting ready in the ports will be ready and the banks will be ready in the factories will be ready and business will be ready and the hospitals will be ready and our amazing food and farming sector will be ready and waiting to continue selling edible not just here but around the wont and dont forget that in the event of a new deal out come we will have that extra lubrication of the 39000000000. 00 pounds 39000000000. 00 pounds extra lubrication john the money that he is talking about thats money that britain is to the European Union right britain committed to the European Union budget runs until the end of june of 2020. Meaning forget since britain which gets money from that very same budget those british farmers that he just talked about they actually get angry cultural subsidies from the European Union and so this idea that somehow he can basically go brussels we refuse to pay thats like a ray drank to a bull and there is no way that thats a sensible negotiating tactic he keeps only known about that but on the brussels signs it gets absolutely no wes i think thats a very dangerous words hes using and we know that us President Donald Trump he has advised Boris Johnson not to pay that divorce bill what can you do if we are indeed talking about breach of contract. Is in fact quite ridiculous i mean no its difficult of course to sue a country in a court of law that is not the way to go but. Knowing that this was down the road i mean these threats have been formed by bricks a chair last brick city is last year and the year before that and a very cool answer in brussels to those sorts of threats is if you dont pay up he wont get anything that means if forced johnson then needs to come back to the European Union talk about a trade deal because britain is going to need 8 trade feel any kind of trade deals made maybe canada or something similar with the European Union they will just slam the door in his face until he has paid up there will be nothing so it will be this what concerns all kinds of every day every day things that are absolutely necessary to britain planes flying lending in european airports no thank you and so on and so forth its a long line these are empty threats but the tone of nastiness as john said i mean the tone of nastiness really doesnt make us expect anything good from the 1st in meetings with Boris Johnson in brussels we dont want to forget theresa may to day you know during her final questions for the Prime Minister session in parliament she and labor leader germany corben they traded blows in compliments and blows again take a look i say to the right honorable gentleman as this is the last time we will have this exchange across these dispatch boxes. I was going to say this is the strength of our british democracy that the Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition have these exchanges across there just as says every week at 2 sorts when. No resource is given and thats as it should be in the adversarial parliamentary democracy but he and i are very different people with very very. Very different politicians i think we approach the issues we face in this country in different ways i have spent all but one of my he is in this house on the front bench trying to implement the policy is i believe that he has spent most of his time on the backbench is campaigning for washing believes in often against his own party but what i think we both have in common is a commitment to our constituents his i saw that after the terrorist attack and since people in his constituency. Perhaps i could just finish my exchange with him by saying this as a party leader who has accepted it when her time was up perhaps the time is now for him to do the say. Well that was political theater best i could feel when else coming from the german corben side bear is german hes not planning on going anywhere izzie hes not planning on going anywhere but. The opposition the labor party is in a dire situation theyve had a big fuss and hue and cry about anti semitism in the party they are deeply divided on bricks that they have finally after months of years really off sort of internal strife finally managed to come to a common position that is that they do in fact want 2nd referendum i mean it is Boris Johnson wouldnt be standing where he stood today if the labor party had shaped up and sort of got its act together much earlier so maybe Jeremy Corrigan i mean he has a lot of internal enemies and in fact we might put down whos going to go for us jeremy carbon or. Joe i mean chairman corbin would love to see a general election happened yesterday is he going to get. Its possible because one thing we havent yet talked about his is how Boris Johnson is just going to shaping up and Boris Johnson is surrounding himself with really breaks that hard line is. To use a quote from another Johnson Lyndon b. Johnson who said hed rather have his enemies on the inside pissing out johnson has now got a lot of enemies on the outside pissing into his governments going to get wet its going to get pretty nasty so ultimately i think actually whats happened today is probably increase the chances that britains going to end it with a general election but connecting that banks what bob was just be saying and i agree with that analysis of jeremy colemans problems labors turn in the 3rd in the opinion polls at the moon and the conservatives are neck and neck with the liberals and labor is really struggling now the challenge is for the labor party is can they do anything to put that right now one option they could have is actually properly opposing brakes which jeremy koeppen has refused to do if lay this which having a proper ok he went and he breaks a position that might save his chances but Jeremy Corbyn himself is pro bracks it as far as we know and hes very stubborn and doesnt want to change the partys position thats true and theres no evidence that that will change anytime soon john worth and barbara bass for the both of you thank you for 2 days of excellent analysis we appreciate it thank you it carries on to more of a. Orwell one that was getting a new Prime Minister in washington the sitting u. S. President was tweeting about congressional hearings and the testimony of former special counsel robert. Did not include not just. That is correct and what about total exoneration you actually totally exonerate the press. Now in fact europe which explicitly states that it does not exonerate. It does. Robert mueller reluctantly appearing before 2 congressional committees today to answer questions about his investigation into russian meddling in the twentys 16 election impossible ties between the Truck Campaign and russian government officials for more on what Robert Miller said and didnt say today im joined by the w. s all over salad hes been following these hearings for us in washington and here at the big table with me is boris foreman he is a u. S. Politics analyst for us and a professor at bard college here in berlin gentlemen its good to see both of you again oliver let me start with you these hearings theyve been called the most anticipated congressional hearings in decades i mean there were High Expectations today were those expectations met by mr moller. Well id say if you expect a lot of new material to come out of these hearings here today if you expected Robert Mahler to live or anything substantial to whats already in the report then you might be disappointed right now 3. That was not the purpose of these hearings and the democrats really did not consider this to happen at all 2 robert mala actually was even given the order yesterday by the department of justice to strictly focus on the report one democratic lawmaker even said the main goal is to get driver dollars say what robert rowe its now if you want you can consider these hearings here today is Something Like a political blockbuster because whats happening and this is the major problem here is that you have these 448 pages a mother report thats very hard to digest not only for lawmakers and journalists but also for your average American Voter and that is what the Democratic Party and the committees here were trying to achieve is to get Robert Moller out on live t. V. And sensually repeating whats in the report but as sound bites and life on National Television overlook this to prove are all of the same page i got my copy here to the 400 page report you had to flip through it today during the testimony boards did the world learn anything that it didnt already know. So they dont really know if i would totally agree with what others said i mean this is the point was to create soundbites the thing is maybe the democrats succeeded in getting muller to reiterate a couple of his positions he was very clear on the point that this was not an exoneration so he contradicted trump and his. Obstruction and sort of the good. Or much jeff but it wasnt it wasnt a cathartic moment it was not a it was not a homerun for the democrats and so i think they will remain divided theyve been divided its a political issue i think impeachment in the u. S. Very unlikely it was clear today that lawmakers one of the drive home the key points in this report i want you to take a listen to the following exchange. Would you agree that it was not a hoax that the russians were engaged in trying to impact our election absolutely that was not a hoax the indictments were turned against the russians 2 different ones where. Substantial in their scope is you know a scope or again it and i think one of the. We have under play to a certain extent and that aspect of our investigation that has and would have a long term damage to the United States that we need to move quickly to address. And when donald trump called your investigation which on to that was also false was it not like to think so yes well your investigation is not a witch hunt is it is not a witch hunt it is not a witch on Oliver Robert mueller also testified today that he felt the president was and im quoting here generally not being truthful in his written statements which were submitted to the moeller investigation i mean has there been reaction from the president or from members of congress. Well president truong just moments ago left the oval office and spoke to some reporters and of course not very surprisingly he called this all again a witch hunt and in addition to that he called it fake news a lot of phony stuff those were his words here today not very surprisingly but one thing is clear both sides are really trying to claim victory President Trump also is sad that this is an embarrassment for the democrats and for the whole country the democrats in turn. Got the sound they wanted at least partially and the one was of course Robert Lawler as you just said and heard it. Claiming that this was not a witch on an earlier he said in the Judiciary Committee that President Trump is not exonerated so essentially you have robert model of the author of this report. Proving to major of claims of the president wrong at least through the eyes of robert muller. Some would say listen to this next exchange here the question why not indict the president if you have reason to believe that he tried to obstruct justice is it correct that if you had concluded if the president committed the crime of obstruction you could not publicly state it in your report who are here today i would say you. Could do the statement would be that you would not indict and you would not indict because under the oil she opinion a sitting president she said we cannot be indicted be unconstitutional so you could not state it

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