we will maintain the finest fighting force the world has ever known the world has ever known never ever. thought it was merely people who were most rude i just don't like the image that it comes up in most people's books. like any other thing in the global finance it's just the military trade. contractors don't like her program. why would i prefer to go. missing on government expects the iraqi troop and was considered a good deal. not be art for you on the. way to your school great. rehydrate. this match between the way we match up or to the reality of the twenty first century. can we do any more could we find someone to be good for the ordinary girl even if you get what you mean from. b.b.c. world service if you have troops in iraq. thank you continues to maintain a high places in the country with the knowledge of the u.s. embassy in the world the situation in the kurdish judge and your crucial for the national good control over to the afghan forces be sure to situation really critical to the country. says without american out there that we are now stuck by my own stuff in iraq. this is chad as you know i'm commander says he was. so young i thought if i just use other funds over these islands most of it is against some of them to out where it left on that stuff. they know that it's on right now down there tonight need to supplement the full of u.s. museums in was one area i mean it's not my money. so how many are sending out that you should be your child soldiers and the nikon staff and i can't get. that i'm never gotten a summit on resorted to using a gun not because of the ideas being that people will come it isn't what you tell me that this would be to i'm the guy that's an english. think. gandhi should those who can find the gun run. companies risk on comment on fact as we sometime on onto them. are example have been it for some would i'm. the problem motoring industry is a part of how the country is in fights wars today. u.s. government doesn't track the number of contractors it uses in places iraq or afghanistan we know it's a lot we don't really know exactly how many. i spent several years working within the industry i have a military background and one of the differences between being a soldier i found and being a private military contractors that when you work for the us military or any military you take a sacred oath that you're going to serve and fight for your country and necessary die to protect a way of life one that you believe in the loyalty of these companies and these businessmen's change depending on market forces this industry is not just what you see is what you get. when you see a company you. i don't know exactly who's working for them they hire and they sometimes create what we call subs sub contractors. there's been commanders in afghanistan who just simply say we don't know who the subs of the subs the subs are so you have all these like layers of the contracts. united states army and the military in general is so reliant on the private sector i would call it a dependency but we don't know who's the on the ground presence of these companies overseas we don't know. just outside the wall in somalia and i couldn't make it up because there was no job i didn't. and my friend called me it's told me to stay and i was. very civic and see they were recruiting guys so called iraq if you just use weapons and we are well trained in it come from comply on. that was. that the very idea of my compliant backing for iraq began when i was. in memories come back from the past i started weeping it's interesting to know when i'm seeing this and i'm thinking. also for now. when my device. can form iraq. with marking from iraq you see that you need to. we want to show you a fighter. not one night you know one will basically weapon this is only people that become qualified to between iraq. and young going to perspective the iraqi crude and was considered a quite good deal in the sense that they could actually sick local troublemakers something the way to interact for a couple of years and then returning them after two years with money and from that overseas deployment this could surf to stabilize security. and i. was really crazy in iraq because since the fed i stepped my feet in iraq every day there was a bombing they bombed the village there is iraq it's. every day we have rockets fired. every day i have gunshots every day a bomb in income an income in all my good. if you know what soups i need to damage for all of our guts four of the civil union guys well trained guys. as soon as a rich in iraq i called my mom i said mom i'm in iraq she said oh. i said i'm in iraq no no you're kidding i said low moment i'm in iraq i said mom just watch the number what's the number and she watched the number. she was she was just so was yelling oh daddy yeah i said no mom no problem here we'll see if we are not using a weapon we are you here as does our views my mom i said we are doing just domestic walk in iraq she told all the neighbors their own son my son he's in iraq you know he's doing. cooking job. with with one. young man one has been for mainly by young converts and. if you're looking for young men to perform military jobs the chances are quite good that they have also been child soldiers. or you ever came in i think like that actually. i was it just to. me it took my father a grammar and put it on the truck. as a national what i would grant my brother. to the day did you do on children just watching from. genesee which they would be video to give you a point they felt which was was you know i don't know what's right what's he talking about. cho was sure enough to keep. right. no. need to which. i thought sure you died to have the money. if not god every day. returned i hear my father figure out what out next i get i would get. this it's little. artifacts. i said no i don't want a tree so i stuck so i go to this such as used in this stuff it's in my boat. this on that wall and they're not going to. drop just visiting us to crave for water because the commission for good i would still go to the water so i started as . all my heart. when i was young. i don't let off things that i've been seeing there. a lot of. which is not good for you monday. with a days because. of the job. on her residence before you have to do it by denny don't you two have been killed. in about fifteen countries i've been involved in programs to integrate children who are certain armed forces. it's a contradiction in terms on the one hand western countries have pumped large sums of money into the reintegration of former child soldiers but now we have governments like us supporting these so-called security companies that recruit people and continue their exposure to violence and cement their identities as perpetrators of violence as soldiers but make it impossible to ever reintegrate into civilian life. now i will that. and i think that says. this is ours it's i as well as my job. is weapon. at one time when the came into account. to kill a lot of. these. hours and some of the time. looking down we had exposure to second place. i think when people are dying on the street. the explosion is sickening all of our the city and up any time had a gunshot had a ball all watch a very explosion i think about my colleagues who was happens every front. and when you brought with you that. you faced. it actually. and entered it to. full force. should i and i do remember. the school district was and this is what's happened and should she. let you all. know you all. know. is that you don't you think you know this is not going well because a one. i don't have. as makes me. go up with. ideas which. may seem like an act or free well it is not young people in syria we don't have no jobs they're desperate to feed themselves and their families and result is that it becomes harder and harder to ever find their way back into civilian life and they may plant seeds of violence wherever they go. while we. always remember one thing. so when i when i have a one. on one when you are not in the work it's a work because i'm fully functional. which means. i can do anything with. you know i spend my life working to do and the rehabilitation of the real gratian of young people and it pains me to see my own government supporting the behavioral so-called security companies you know we pride ourselves on being a moral people trying to do the right thing what we're doing is we're exploiting people using young people who've been child soldiers deliberately sending them into the jaws of combat and further violence nothing could be worse for these young people nothing could be worse for security. when we think of war and the warrior who fights it we have this image and our mind and of a man and uniform. in uniform means they're fighting as part of a military serving a nation because if they fight for their force political patriotism and yet when you look at the wars of the twenty first century they don't match those assumptions anymore now we have outsourced a lot of our war fare to private military companies. and one ways makes a great deal of business sense you're able to get labor at cheaper rates but what it does is complicates an already complicated situation. so you cut your costs you make more profit and you get the soldier that you want but you also majorly dilute the professionalism in the effectiveness of those so. i find so many parallels between this industry and other industries that offer up a lot. numbers of labor for hire and transnational markets so there's parallels between engineering and construction very soon i'm going to bring you the best trained people in the world but then actually i'm just going to poland as much energy labor as i can trying to get the difference between you know what your pay per se and what i'm taking in giving out to me. you know and i. love the. third country nationals generally cheaper it's just just like any other thing in the global finance right now having a factory in american or western europe of course but the cabinet factory they sure are in the same with this it's just the military trade you know. companies self interest is different than national self interest companies are profit maximizing what they do that's natural except here we're not creating you know toys we're producing thing as a result of the war. the background of this changing nature of war and fights that dates back to the very start of the private military industry itself. into the early ninety's the troposphere gene street is a duck a murky industry. outright most obese. who would bring down governments for the cash. that could field a full all me if this is. just a tiny take out so just incredibly highly trained and have moved into the private sector brochures and we call for videos which me saying is your issue to purchase face. book second of outcomes is a legend in this business. they formed and soft africa as apartheid ended. they had a background in some of the special police forces during apartheid and certainly own and this became controversial and internationally and he stepped in and said you can't hire insecure about comes. so another company called sandline international out of london sort of end up taking on some of those contracts. can you explain what exactly son find internationally is what you do and so learn. it is a company that provides military consultancy services for governments or large corporations . at the time the idea was to get very posh english officers on top of these private military companies and tim spicer was an officer in the military british military he got out and was asked to come help with a company called sandline. all things i think about comes row going to be and that's we think they're extremely good extruding professional were very good track record there are no. skeletons in there come it was it was i mean we think that they're very good human rights record. and we would use them. to be hires the same people so that. but now they're legitimate because they're working under contract. to spicer was considered a respectable and of a mercenary organization but at first this business affairs it didn't go too well he was dogged by failure. a company run by tip spicer's fell behind a couple hundred fifty patients by customs and excise but he's accused of smuggling weapons illegally. when a private firm gets involved in foreign politics for the benefit of a criminal but you have to stop and ask ok this really happened or is this a fictitious you know james bond type story but it was a true story. another bush on the war. in papa new guinea sound line arrested at the airport shuttle spicer is facing firearms charges linked to his bid to provide south african trade that's reason to put down on local report. sign. the line eventually to last on the way to bad advice to the ones that say you know in the short term you can say that the most successful company in terms of delivering an enormous amount of money to resettle sensible to first. place on a career where he was able to found what would then become one of the most significant for them if you took me in the world. the chase. when no leaven occurred everything. the contractor content of the armed forces went up astronomically at this hour american and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm iraq. ideologically republicans my party wanted every single public function to be scrutinized analyzed evaluated and if possible privatized general shinseki the head of the us army at the time testified to congress and said if we're going to do iraq it's going to take several hundred thousand u.s. troops and very quickly the rest of the bush administration reacted negatively and he's absurd that's crazy it's not going to require those amount of troops and they actually simply dropped him out of the military it turned out he was right we did deploy several hundred thousand forces it was just through private military. so in the early days of iraq it was a gold watch you had companies coming out of nowhere including law clerk who was really look at how boy it was when nobody had any control anybody doing anything with firearms in this country could say their private military company. was an a.t.m. it's in this company's. lucille's from using private military contractors for understandable tasks to using private military contractors wholesale in my view took place without much debate and all everybody. contractors offer some gray area benefits to politicians everybody's concerned like we have a thousand boots the ground nobody ever asks how many contractors there is totally charred boots on the ground which. we. didn't think when you look at it. in the. bank than that and only not nice and back she. looked like she'd fucking hate us. you yes you to post this i'm telling you all the rules to stop and you can deduce that. if you know all of the wolf and let me know not to look up nothing about me did mean. nothing about should to mean. that punishment much in a done with up. to me to mean shit to mean. bang bang say did did you get a skirt suit in front of it to shine for him to give you the records shave his carpet. and they did exactly. the security companies had the sensitivity balls something that is that civilians would often if not always get caught in the crossfire. to real problems for the military so we sell the contractor presence in iraq in particular but afghanistan too was becoming contrary to what the mission was for the armed forces therefore their presence was more danger that it was help. and. the problem was that we had all of these different private military companies running around we outsourced too quickly and they weren't coordinated both in contract terms but also in on the ground operational terms so what is your answer to. a real problem for the military so we sell the contractor presence in iraq in particular but afghanistan too was becoming contrary to what the mission was for the armed forces therefore their presence was more danger than it was help. the problem was that we had all of these different private military companies running around we outsourced too quickly they weren't quare native both in contract terms but also in on the ground operational terms so what is your answer to a problem of outsourcing. outsource more we outsourced it to a private military company to coordinate the seemed to be ideal for us company was a huge contract it was half a billion dollars or just under that and it was just so in the one of the large big american companies would win it but it didn't work out that way. pendleton spies that hit the headlines a few years ago during the arms to africa affair involving his old company san juan but kind of spies and now has developed a thriving business and private security and recently won that monthly million pound contract well tim spies is with me now tim good morning what's your summary of the situation in terms of chaos or lord over i would only advise people to go there if the measures in put in place for their protection on sunday. he says contract in iraq was to have seen the communication and coordination for the private security companies on the ground. beneath it to make that they were the general in charge of all with the private contracts. at that point the us military was the largest machine presence in iraq but he had to get a hold of the private military contract as spies effectively in charge and second which some force or. very rapidly it features such a machine. and it made to spy so extremely healthy that. majority of americans now think it was a mistake to go to war in iraq. early in the iraq war the president stood before the end of that said mission accomplished three and a half years later the debate is back over why the u.s. is interact in the first place public support for the war is falling war americans want the troops to come home. in a brief ceremony on a base on the edge of baghdad the united states took down the flag of its command here to mark the end of the military mission. the u.s. money was starting to be pulled out of the iraqi. children freshens and the industry had to go through a very complicated reset. those companies had to realize that they weren't going to get that level of money again and so they had to offer different. deals that meant they would have to hire cheap the soldiers. in the local to sort. out. the fore. then they go on and i'm young. and to google women good woman men don't want to go so mad. and. god will. always use you achieve anything if you're hardly going. to get it out of it and if you. don't have to and if you give you my. doubts if you wish well you. know yourself and i've got it here. i can. live with with this new team i was going to move. and that. i'm going to miss. home i love a good ball. i don't hold back on the. next what's in the long so. the initial story could see. it be it long sleeve who could see. got some of the interest ocean homes. some people bit muted bees. on people or misunderstood rights icons because i'm thinking of us more pundits minds from my phone. more than. really. good i. think we'll be lang you don't watch for. that long we. accept it when you go to court. for homs. in a sense. it's. well aware what. you are about. destroyed the life. of a writer said my phone for life. it would. take for when i was just. was. the. when we first started into fear we were briefed on peruvian and columbia m m m the natural question you ask this so what if they for these folks a little that's a time and i'm playing off memory cells but i'm pretty good at that that was about a thousand to twelve hundred of us and them oh i don't know six months a year ago it became. gandhian guards at about eight hundred dollars a month him out on his most recent trip the company in the is winning all the awards that at this was first started heard of well we've got a good strategy we're used in sierra leonean so you ask the question so so what are we paying him for two hundred fifty dollars a month. well you know i guess rhetorically i don't expect any answer and you know if you can go a little lower could we find someone of something we'll do it for boardroom you know that is such a terrible country that maybe they'll just go out of the country and be a free security guard i mean that's pretty inexpensive i say that it sounds facetious but it's real. you know you get what you pay for. private security industry will continue to act for. you're going to see private companies in the train gaining in the fact. these are companies that are rejecting our country's in the companies are thrown out on. these companies that mr now stuff just. fundamentally if you're seen snow democracy and your government takes an action that you don't agree with you can vote that government out if a company or from your country is doing something you just agree with there's not much and. if people care a lot when you're a dead soldier or dead marine shows up in this country and we start asking ourselves why did they die. why do what were they fighting for nobody bothers to ask about that contractors. who cares i mean there's nobody going to die and come home in a body bag at the inverted over or whatever. every american who serves joins an unbroken line of heroes i'm awed by their sacrifice. there's no one going to go out and protest in the streets of the contractors killed . music to the ugandan in the open in iraq and his family from syria will end up in afghanistan it's really your knowledge your tax money. doing it but make sure the cultishness those that trouble. private military contractors make a decision to go to war a lot easier. as part of ending a war responsibly is standing by those who fought it. from the challenges of cross-country skiing to a journey back in time on the fish. 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