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yes i'll be coming to my guests in a minute but first it's been an absolutely pathetic start to the season for cologne heading into match day nine. had lost seven bundesliga games and drawn just one and leaving them anchored at the bottom of the table their fifth place finish last season is almost hard to believe their funds are growing angry the republicans this weekend braman another club that don't have much to sing about they haven't won a match in the bundesliga since april desperation was in the air for this early relegation battle. clear support for under pressure cologne coach peter shergold but he suffered a blow before kick off the form of braman strike a cloudier piece out of ruled out after an injury in the warm up. with john porter also out he's out of was replaced by reserve striker said we'll get our see the frenchman must have an eventful day in the basement battle his first half misses with there for all to see. but nothing came close to what happened after the break the twenty one year old somehow failing to hit the target here it will go down as one of the misses of the season. bizzaro scored dozens of those over the years and his old side braman almost snatched it at the death constantine a vital shocking thomas delaney's header off the line. a goalless draw was of little use to either coach. it is groundhog day every day seems like we want sympathy or self-pity is not what we need. but after his raft of misses it certainly felt like groundhog day for hapless. so an absolutely terrible result for both cologne and braman really with both still stuck at the bottom of the table it's time to discuss many topics and let's start with you michel did you expect really this result i mean did you not expect a little bit of a better performance from two teams who were struggling so terribly so far this season no. eighteen and seventeen is playing against. it's bad it's bad since weeks and everybody they start coming out better better better but there's nothing i can see any any better performance since day one and that's very very tough to see for everybody especially the supporters friends and. jury of these guys. before i turn to our very own mark meadows mark i want to take a look at a tweet which is quite telling it's from colognes official. twitter account and they say it was an encouraging display now i would call that often is. to the extreme almost what do you think is going wrong at cologne and i mean seeing tweets like that i don't think it's it's really like they're really in reality i mean they're not seeing what's really going on oh yeah i mean fifty last season and it's all going wrong when the main problem is is they haven't got a striker i mean if you let anybody else go to china and you don't replace in them what do you expect i mean the fact that they brought him to zero a thirty nine year old injury prone striker outside the transfer window just shows what desperation they're in so it's not really peter struggles fault because he can only work with what he's got is the club's fault for not planning properly and not giving them a squad especially when they're playing in the europa league as well this season i mean he said in his press conference look i'm still up for the fight i still believe we can get out of this but you have to worry now i mean it's been so long they're going to wait until january. and try and get a striker in just someone who can bang the ball net well they want to really get things moving quickly when they mature and you see cordoba is injured now so you have the problems coming bigger it's unbelievable what's going on at the moment and we call on desperate times you know what we've been talking about cologne but let's talk about braman i mean you know there's a lot of pressure on sugar but i mean what about nori. cruisers injured too they have to. same problem like cologne and for me i said both both cultures they don't have more time to stay in this club so i think in the few weeks there. are now you heard it first from our very own michelle now guys don't go anywhere because we have plenty of other action so let's take a look at some other games unlike cologne and braman the freiburg had to seem well set in their jobs despite average starts to this season's campaign they both made the europa league places last season but this term is looking trickier homesite freiburg went in front through this penalty from yannick have a at the start of the second half. for the spot after seventy seven minutes. and just four minutes later that's right lou hand and no other chance this time he scored one all in finish a looking point for the berliners and certainly a frustrating one for friedberg. now hosts volves burger having a less than impressive start to the season they'd only won one game heading into march day nine but since it took over the wolves have avoided a defeat at least hoffenheim on the other hand have their sights set on joining the pack fighting to win the bundesliga title union side were on a high after picking up the club's first ever european win in the europa league during the week but could they keep up the temple let's take a look. yulian not goals months hoffenheim were aiming to stay in the mix at the top of the table as they paid a visit to the hungry wolves but the home team blew a big early chance when maximilian arnold saw his penalty stop by although of about a man who somehow managed to get a boot on it. the encounter could charitably be called a slow burner until the seventy second minute that's when myself brought down benyamin who have now in the box. no doubt about the decision penalty for hoffenheim kerim demi did the honors and showed how it's done. one neal. conan castille is moving the wrong way on this one. but spork sprang to life and added time a corner from danielle and félix powered it in with his head one. now let it care for it from the german defender and that's how it ended the wolves snatched victory away from not goes months team dropping off and time further away from the league's top three. well the match day nine conversation continues i'm going to go straight to michelle on a quick word on hazard of course your old team what is going wrong there why are they not firing. so many points are having a row but there's no quality in the team they have no strikers and. the body language of appalled that i don't like it at the moment is totally different and. in the beginning of his career as a coach of how to blend and that's the point of everything in this for the moment no one knows what's going on in the next weeks when you're concerned that's for sure michelle looks sad and concerned with mark but i'm going to bring we're going to talk about health and i'm not for a second another point drop they slipped up they had that chance really to kind of move even closer to the running back to the leading pack should their fans be worried or is that a little bit too much to ask that yes i mean therefore they finished last season and they're still in dreamland they're up there but i think the problem is. it's a little unfair what's going on there because obviously everyone's kind of off expecting to go to buy and munich and he's got all this pressure and he's like an old dition it's like a season long oldish and i think someone needs to come out and say from by munich we want him we don't want him and then he knows either way well he doesn't know he's kind of thinking god if i drop a point here a point there my chance is gone and maybe that's transmitted to the players but as we say fall for isn't too bad at this stage of the season it's not really that but i want to bring you in quickly on what do you are you worried do you think that they're going to manage to stay up there with the leading pack or are they going to slip up maybe a few more times they're going to stay they're definitely yes you will be and he's doing a tremendous job and all the players they are happy and we will we will see it on different games don't worry about this ok well that's some positive words there are concerns i have to because now it's time to look at the results from the weekend as a whole so let's bring those results up and as we know we've already seen that cologne vetter braman still without a win this season will all freiburg drew with have their berlin fall. as for another drop there and that was with huff and haim homburg slipped up against a bar and you need to have a dreadful run of form they're actually against bar munich or rb leipzig beach don't guard glove terrible result for them against laver koos and frankfurt drew two all with dortmund slipped up against hanover and a good result on friday for shall beat months. now go it's time to take a look at the table at the end of match day nine and there's no change at the top dortmund remain top of the table with biron in second tied on points in third hoffenheim are just a few points behind in fourth shell and hung over move up after their respective victories and the other end absolutely no change at the bottom with cologne and braman still without a victory this season. now guys i want to ask you something really quickly to think there's going to be any change then the bottom you think alone are going to manage to do something about this dreadful reform briefly. it all hangs on and generally doesn't it they have to bring a prop a strike or an injury or try and get modest back i don't think he's happy in china to be honest it might go back to cologne no i don't believe that i don't believe that but what i think is maybe is taken some players under seventy under one thousand nine hundred something fresh was not thinking in the box something like that could be a point you know could be a point a marker for match the. guys well let's. is the home of german football and we want to share the experience with you all the time every much day and in between two there's all sorts of ways 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