they're attached to. so if a congressman happened to use one of his children's phone to talk to a staffer at some point, that's how that would happen. it doesn't mean they were targeting the minor. but nonetheless, you know, for these members or whoever it was, it's very disconcerting to know the justice department was secretly spying on you, essentially, especially because, maria therese sack, these are members of the intelligence committee. we trust them with the nation's most closely guarded secrets. they are briefed on covert cia action and all kinds of intelligence matters. so the idea that if they weren't trusted, their access should have been cut off that didn't happen. it's really a very strange situation. >> ken, i think the challenges that in the silo it seems strange. but when you realize what they were investigating is the same people that were looking into the russia connection potentially with trump, and then you hear more about the access of the stuff that you're covering oftentimes with national security and how russia seems to be a thread through our elections and through these investigations, it really gives