what's that? these are essential services. i just wish people knew what it was like. i wish they understood what it was like to drive for these services. >> uber eats has not commented. dorothy brown is joining us and author of "the whiteness of wealth." and doreen warren. co-chair of the economic security project. thank you all so very much. this is an issue near and dear to my heart. i have a lot of students in this gig economy spending more gas than they're getting back. dr. brown, i want to start with you. there's data out that shows 69% of these food service drivers are people of color, are racial or ethnic minorities. what does that mean about the appeal of these apps and the desperation of communities of color for flexible or affordable work? >> it means if we had better

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