presented to president biden in a situation like this? you would be in the obama white house, you'd be part of the team putting those options together. >> well, i think the near-term target was this issue of aviation and to show that on the specific question of international air travel, that belarus is basically kicked out of that system. that air carriers cannot fly into and out of belarus. they cannot fly through belarus' airspace, essentially cutting off belarus from europe. i think secondly, though, the biden administration is going to have to look at what kind of sanctions can be imposed on lukashenko and his inner circle. and the reality is the guys that lukashenko relies upon, oligarchs to finance their autocracy. i think this is a case where we're going to be looking at coordinating efforts with the europeans to go beyond the sanctions already in place and really throw the book at lukashenko and his cronies, trying to freeze their assets, cut off their money trails they depend upon, but also