hospital, would you support leaving private insurance? and the numbers go up higher than before. >> okay. but that's the -- first of all you can't guarantee you're going to keep your doctor and hospital, right? because doctors change. i mean like in some ways -- >> that's the whole point. >> it's a promise no one can keep. >> that's the whole point. with the current private insurance plan, every time you move a plan. >> sure. >> which means you lose a job. >> yes. >> you gain a job, whatever happens, you have a different insurance plan, you have to see whether that plan has your doctor or hospital, right? >> correct. >> withed me kp ed mmedicare fo would not be the case because there is no in network or out of network hospital or doctor. so what you have a consistency where you do keep your -- now i suppose if you're a doctor retired, not in practice anymore. >> no one can tell you with a straight face that they can predict the future what your health care is going to be like. that's my only point.