so it's not a state that's easy to predict or pigeon hole. voters here don't always take the predictable position. what's going on right now, because when president trump won in 2016, it was the first time a republican had taken michigan since 1988. it was a bit of a shock to many in the state. then in 2018 you had a huge turnout, big democratic vote, democratic women swept all of the top positions -- governor, attorney general, secretary of state. and now the question is, what kind of turnout are we going to get in 2020? and some people are predicting possibly another record turnout, as many as 6 million votes. but the question nthat's tearin up the democratic party in michigan right now is do you go