when he looks at senator menendez who certainly looks like -- >> hung jury in a bribery trial. >> there you have it. i mean, and he went through the whole process and he's still sitting there, that makes him say, huh, i could have made through it. but to phillip's point, it's politics, so it's a different story. >> so, joe crowley, you have the new yorker story, pat leahy, heidi heitkamp, angus king, jeff merkley, tom udal, tim nelson, current and former senators there all of whom joined that call in late 2017 for franken to leave the senate. he's saying in this article he basically had no choice. they're all saying now, they're quoted here on the record saying they regret it. should they regret it? >> well, i think you have to look back as philip and susan have said. there were over half a dozen credible accusations i believe made. and no one forced senator franken to resign. he chose to do that himself. but i wonder, steve, if you