as a story and became their defenders that's because they're worried about being branded in that extreme left progressive manner, but i think at the end of the day there's going to be a presidential candidate on the democratic side, and that's who the republicans are going to run against. it doesn't matter what happens between now and january, february. >> joe, this came out today, npr maris new poll president trump's approval rating, this poll was taken last week as this story played out. i think it was after his initial tweet did not get the reaction to that chant at that rally. this is an incomplete readout on how the public is perceiving trump right now. nonetheless, it does show his approval rating sitting at 44%. it had been 41% in their lost poll. these are not great numbers historically, but by trump standards these are on the higher end of where he's been, 44% in this poll. is it possible to you, do you think, that this is -- this is