emoluments through the trump hotel, the office tower and other business ventures. this is the way to really understand how we got into this situation. he is a businessman. he is a failed businessman who went bankrupt four or five times. a lot of the russian oligarchs bailed him out through the moneylaundering schemes they did. that was the genesis of what happened in 2016. but that's going to be our way of recovering the roots of this story and telling america the narrative about why we're in this situation. >> so what about this idea a lot of this playing out through the courts. you slap subpoenas on them, and then they say we're not giving you anything, or we're not letting a witness come and then you fight it out in the courts. there is an argument that the position of the house would be stronger in the courts if there was an impeachment inquiry under way. do you think that argument has merit? >> undoubtedly. professor tribe has cataloged all of the arguments for why we're in a stronger position to