people as it can that have these final orders. we're talking about 150,000 people last year detained. 250,000 people deported out of of the country. the other thing that has to be discussed and i think the way that we sort of laid this out this hour is perfect. this is all part of a branding exercise by the president. the detention facilities at the border, the tweets, the announcement of these i.c.e. rates and keep in mind the first announcement of these i.c.e. raids came two weeks ago. this is designed to keep these communities on edge, it's designed to make an impact and fire up the base and drive a wedge between republicans and democrats. the problem is you hear that you'll have this collateral damage, which is people that should not be caught up in these raids will be caught up in these raids. >> let's go to hans nichols at the white house. what we hear is these are final removal orders. these are i.c.e. agents that are working hard. this is not about them.