coming. >> interesting about that, that moment i didn't actually think -- i fell in love with her before that moment. i want to take that moment a little bit differently, jean. it's interesting. i grew up as one of the kids involved in bussing. in the early '70s my sister was a year ahead of me got bussed into a very, very tough african-american school, bad experience for her. they sent her to private school. i kicked and screamed. didn't want to go to private school. went to public school, 4,000 kids, fully integrated. it was a real good experience, but we stayed segregated. the african-american kids were here, caucasian kids were here. i guess it's hard. do you automatically give somebody who is not integrating, bussing and integration is different. gene, am i an ignorant white man talking? saying somebody can be completely not racist in their heart and 45 years ago as a politician say, well, maybe