i want to take that moment a little bit differently, jean. it's interesting. i grew up as one of the kids involved in bussing. in the early '70s my sister was a year ahead of me got bussed into a very, very tough african-american school, bad experience for her. i kicked and screamed. didn't want to go to private school. went to public school, 4,000 kids, fully integrated. the african-american kids were here, caucasian kids were here. do you automatically give somebody who is not integrating, bussing and integration is differen different. gene, am i an ignorant white man talking? say maybe that's not the right answer? i'm struggling. >> i would never call you an ignorant white man, donny,