to take it to donald trump, obviously kamala harris showed that without a doubt. i think also elizabeth war rememb ren showed that the night before. you had basically two women who won these debates. there is a long road ahead and that's what this is for. voters will choose. >> joe biden still on defense after the criticisms by harris. listen to what he said yesterday. >> we all know that 30 seconds to 60 seconds on a campaign debate exchange can't do justice to a lifetime committed to civil rights. i want to be absolutely clear about my record and position on racial justice, including bussing. i never, never, never opposed voluntary bussing. i fought my heart out to ensure that voting rights, equal rights are enforced everywhere.