>> i do not believe elizabeth warren on stage with donald trump beats him. and i think if we're honest with ourselves and we look hard at ourselves i think a lot of people agree with me. it's -- and i also think when you can label somebody a socialist, 57% of this country thinks that word is un-american. i'm not saying it's fair. when he can blanket elizabeth warren as a socialiest and he's on stage with her, the democrats lose. i think she's delightful, i think she's wonderful. i'm a big fan. i just don't think she has what it takes to beat this president, the same way at least an idealized version of joe biden is. don't shoot the messenger. it's just facts. we've got to get trump out. >> donny, you're in a safe space here. can i follow up on that, donny, who could beat trump? >> i'm still sticking with an