opposition from president trump and senate leadership. nbc's vaughan hilliard just spoke with moore, former florida republican congressman david jolly is back with me as well. vaughan, what did the judge tell you? >> craig, we just actually sat down with the judge moore for 40 minutes essentially opened it up as a full-on conversation not only about 2017, but about policy, about mitch mcconnell, about president trump and we had, you know, to moore's i guess you could say credit, he sat there and answered questions. and he told us, i want to play it for you, just part of this again. it was 40 minutes throughout the day we'll be telling you about different pieces of this. but i just want to play for you a little part in which i questioned him about mitch mcconnell saying that the republican party would vigorously oppose his candidacy. and about president trump saying that he should not run for office. this is part of the interview.