president at face value, the best opposition research. give it to donald trump, help him win the next election and who knows what trump will offer to the country in return. stephanie, what this demonstr e demonstrates is something that came up in that hearing on monday. some of the republican congress men were asking, how can you still say there is collusion, bob pluler didn't find there was collusion. mueller found that he couldn't prove a experience between the president's campaign and russia. this is the definition of collusion. this is a campaign that apparently would be open in 2020 to accepting help from a foreign country. no problem with doing that. that's collusion in plain sight. >> collusion in plain sight, but is there any consequences when the president tells the american people it's no big deal and there are not consequences, this is the same routine we saw oust rudy giuliani. no collusion, so what if there is collusion, you are allowed to