certainly marquee value to the president's son today. news about hope hicks i think potentially could have the most probative value going forward, chuck. >> kelly, does any -- do house democrats realize when they look at today's menu that you and i just went through why there are so many people around the country sort of tuning this out right now? they know there's investigations. you know, you talk about oversight, contempt, and it's barr oh, this is about mueller, not about mueller. i empathize with the person trying to follow all of this and can't keep up. does the house democratic leadership realize what this looks like to sort of the rest of the country? >> certainly nancy pelosi is very aware of that. she told a group of reporters that when she travels the country and speakers always do, they go to raise money, they go to make appearances, that she is hearing from voters with many of their questions about what this process is. so i think she is very tuned into that. at the same time, this is part of her overall plan to have many