>> well, look, i went back and read the mueller report. and the stuff that's in the cohen testimony to congress was enough for mueller to include in his summary, more in his summary and details of his report. so i don't think mueller would have put it in his final report if he didn't believe there was really something there. so when you look at it, i think you have to take it seriously because of that. mueller saying, hey, you know, here's this account. now, the question is does the criminality of others come into question here? and what i'm trying to say is when mueller sat down to the this investigation he says, look, i have to find out whether the president broke the law or others broke the law. and he ultimately said, look, i can't do anything about the president because he's the president but we're doing this investigation to find out if anyone else committed any crimes. and the question is does anything happen to those who got