trump's third wife melania is completely financially dependent on him. the form shows that she has an income of zero. but that she does own her own apartment in new york city. for more of the gems in the trump financial disclosure form we're lucky tonight to have two experts in trump finances. they have both written books about trump finances. david kay johnston won a pulitzer prize for his tax reporting at "the new york times" and exactly who we want to hear from tonight on the disclosure form and tim o'brien's book about donald trump's finances got him sued by donald trump, a lawsuit donald trump lost but not before tim o'brien through the subpoena of that lawsuit was allowed to see donald trump's tax returns, the only reporter who has ever held one of those big things in his hands. after this break, david cay johnston and tim o'brien will join us.