round ever speculation. and every time that happens, trump fills that void by lashing out. so i think what we're going to have is more of this national catharsis and trump using these moments almost as a giant sort of psycho therapy couch. and we all have to sit around and observe it. i'm not anticipating a happy period. the other thing to remember, though, is you have ongoing investigations. there are three states attorney generals looking at him, there are five congressional committees, and there's the southern district of new york. they all are going to carry on probably in some -- possibly in new york past his presidency depending on whether or not he wins a second round in the white house. >> michael, if you're republicans, how do you whip up support for this guy, especially if, say, you served in the united states senate with the man we were just talking about, john mccain. as it not going to get tougher and tougher? we've seen some incredible stories. >> we have. and i think it does get tougher to the extent that you have the report sitting in the attorney general -- on the attorney general's desk. and that period that you were just talking about where people are trying to figure out what's in it, there is going to be pressure. there is going to be this idea that we want to get this in front of the nation. i think the test for republicans will be how much they saddle up next to democrats on that point