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>> i think it raises questions. if you're going to say on the one hand if there's a claim that murdoch that fox was working to silence. >> the rebuttal is sean hannity and roger ailes, running fox who went onto advice donald trump of the debate, that part of the company seems to have more political sway than the journal. i think it's an interesting argument you raise. i don't think it's that helpful. it reminds us of the difference. >> it will be interesting to see who they will point finger at. when she shares her information with congress. >> i would argue -- let me put you a little more. they are pointing the finger at ken lacorte. they are saying there's false cover story. >> they are saying it goes higher. >> if i remember correctly i think the fox story it suggested it may have gone as high as murdoch. that's why i make the murdoch

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