contrast as david was saying between where the president wants to go in policy and where the alexandria ocasio-cortez wing of the democratic party wants to go. i do think there is a sense in swing states amongst independent voters that the contrast between a set of policies that could be characterized as free market or free enterprise and a set of policies in the alternative that's characterized as socialist or deeply or very progressive, i think that kind of contrast does set up better for republicans than it does for democrats as you look at these independent and swing voters. >> chris, if you look at where democrats were successful in 2018 winning in suburbs across america that don't like president trump, these are not the most liberal voters of all time. i interviewed a lot of these voters on the trail. a lot of them told me their big problem with the republican party was trump. but if they're dealing in 2020