they might view this as a situation in which they have to do something maybe incremental to save the president and his desire to come up with some sort of a deal and maybe win a nobel peace prize at some point. when you talk about pence, talk about bolton, talk about pompeo, their role in this is mostly to prevent a bad deal. at this point, they're going to do whatever they can to prevent that from happening. >> let me just follow up with you, aaron blake, i mean, we also -- i think everybody here is old enough to remember when the american president stood up and stood against human rights abuses. this is a leader who he keeps calling great and brave and on the cusp of creating, you know, north korea's version of boca on his beaches who murdered his brother. he's not just an autocrat, he's one of the most murderous leaders of a starved, desperate, poor, brutalized, terrorized, population.