against her. her act now is she's been working for the bad guys, but actually she was a good guy all along. she really needs to flush that out in a much deeper way than she has at this point. >> and a philosophy what she can do to -- >> i do come prepared with a solution. right? not just about tearing people down. i want to build people up. i want to see from kamala and frankly any democrat who wants my vote coming up in 2020, you need to release a list, just like trump did, about what kind of people you're going to nominate for the supreme court. if your list does not include people like larry krazner and wesley bell and marilyn mosby and share lynn -- doesn't include that i can't take you seriously as being committed to criminal justice reform. at some point we need to get away from the personality stuff and put people's feet to the fire on the actual issues. >> quickly, about joe biden and his hesitance, nbc reporting saying that it's his family, and
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