every single reason why you can guess hillary clinton did not win the electoral college is correct. i think donald trump is reminded he didn't win the popular vote every time you mention california. that's why he doesn't like it. >> i want to ask you about the way we're seeing identity used regarded in this campaign so far. there was the answer to that question there. how is it different this time versus the last elections, as you see it? >> you have more women that are going to be running for president. kamala harris is a black woman, a biracial black woman, to be clear. her mother is indian. and i just feel like it will be interesting to see -- i mean, the exact thing you're afraid of being revealed about how we will treat a black woman running for office, like for president. but i don't know, i feel like we