there was double voting, this was real election fraud, the most proved example. >> that is the most important take away, andrea. you and i both remember how desperately president trump wanted to make election fraud an issue during the campaign, even suggesting there had been millions of illegal ballots cast in california which was there no evidence of. he formed a commission early on in his administration to study this notion of fraud. they never found anything, it watt shuttered -- >> they met, they disbanded. they found nothing. in the history books will be this one prominent case which was a case of republicans in his own party trying to do exactly that. overall in the grand scheme, it's a bad development because up until now we really haven't had this type of evidence. so what it does is just undermines confidence in the system, but hopefully people will be on guard in the future and this is a good lesson to see that there was ultimately an election, reelection -- revote